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250341.147 in reply to 250341.144
Date: 2/8/2016 12:34:22 AM
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The best foreign player would probably make less merchandise than a drafted untrained scrub.

Absolutely false. Especially if the foreign player is part of the national team.

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The best foreign player would probably make less merchandise than a drafted untrained scrub.

Absolutely false. Especially if the foreign player is part of the national team.


Prove it. I had a few foreign NT players and most of them lowered my merchandise.

I was using mostly foreign players all of my time in this game and made less than arverage merchandise. Now that I dumped all the big foreign names and run a mostly domestic roster I am way above league average in mechandise income. How is that possible?

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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i cannot specifically address the situation of having a foreign NT and its effect on merchandise. I can however reflect on the premise of Untrained local Scrub vs semi decent foreign player.

So starting with the sale of my longtime trainee Bob Vazquez I decided to make the move to homegrown.
I have a few untrained draft scrubs on my team from years past, namely my two Bigs in Colburn and Paul.
Prior to 1/7/2016 I had decent foreign players on my squad assisting my team in not relegating before I went homegrown
After 1/7/2016 I was Entirely American and only on 1/30/16 did i become entirely homegrown. so here you can see the Merch vs dates of player sales, pretty easy to work out who is american and who isnt but I can clarify if needed.

11/25/2015 Sale of player Bob Vazquez $ 1 797 895
11/25/2015 Purchase of player Romain Moréno $ 1 000
11/25/2015 Purchase of player Fabrice Lassalle $ 122 400
11/25/2015 Purchase of player Todd Outlaw $ 70 600
11/25/2015 Purchase of player Martti Ylikotila $ 40 000
12/2/2015 Purchase of player Tom Rolands $ 616 900
12/3/2015 Sale of player Fabrice Lassalle $ 23 320
12/3/2015 Sale of player Romain Moréno $ 530
1/4/2016 Purchase of player Ted Sherman $ 1 000
1/5/2016 Purchase of player Jon Abreu $ 1 000
1/7/2016 Sale of player Martti Ylikotila $ 10 010
1/7/2016 Sale of player Antonio Agüero $ 7 700
1/30/2016 Sale of player Rick Ryder $ 960
1/30/2016 Sale of player Ted Sherman $ 3 250
1/30/2016 Sale of player Todd Outlaw $ 63 000

11/9/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 26 944
11/16/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 21 667
11/23/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 438
11/30/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 20 349
12/7/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 21 660
12/14/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 23 477
12/21/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 759
12/28/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 628
1/4/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 631
1/11/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 406
1/18/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 279
1/25/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 24 226
2/1/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 25 954
2/8/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 28 983



Of course this is a small sample size but as you can see the Merch on the week prior to becoming fully american was actually higher then the following 3 updates, only actually starting to rise when I got down to 6 homegrown players 4 of which are forever backups and sold 2 of my teams best american players at the time (strange?).

breaking it down further
11/23-11/30 lost 4k in merch but sold Vazquez and acquired 3 Foreign players, albeit trash. Along with 1 American.
12/7-12/14 Sold 2 Foreign, Purchased Prior Player in Rolands who started with my squad. Merch Rises over next few weeks.
1/11 Update No Foreign, Entirely American and Merch starts to drop.
2/1 Fully Homegrown Merch Rising!

Last edited by jbenner420 at 2/9/2016 7:42:38 AM

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250341.150 in reply to 250341.149
Date: 2/9/2016 11:58:08 AM
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I can't show you the results of going from 670k with foreign studs to 157k (below salary floor) mainly domestic dudes, but I estimate that my merchandise doubled in the meanwhile.

I don't know why only 14 merch updates are displayed, when we can see 20 salary updates.

EDIT: merchandise accounts for ~50% of my salaries. #swag #GetMoneyGetPaid #Dollabill

Last edited by Knecht at 2/9/2016 11:59:21 AM

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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250341.151 in reply to 250341.150
Date: 2/11/2016 2:51:34 AM
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Merchandise has two components:

1) Roster nationality component: The higher the salary for players with your nationality in relation to the total salary the more merchandise
2) Player component: homegrown and NT players have a merchandise boost.

The two components are not always additive:
If you have for example a drafted NT player -> big boost in merchandise as it feeds into 1 AND 2
If you have a mostly home nationality roster and a foreign NT player the loss in component 1 might outweight component 2 and you see a loss in merch.

From: Knecht

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Date: 2/11/2016 3:35:14 AM
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As most of the time foreign NT players tend to be the best players on a roster, the loss in merch is certain.

If I added a LaBron type player to my roster I would cut my merchandise in half. Makes no sense to me, but as I believe in a higher power there might be some reason behind it. To the maggots in the cheese, the cheese is the universe.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 2/14/2016 6:58:31 PM
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My team is a very long time homegrown. My first homegrown team is already sold and played in the second league PO,but I had used foreign players in the 3-d for promotion. Now the team will play always without foreign help. Would be nice if homegrown teams could play against each other.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/78605300/boxscore.aspx....That was probably my best play with the first team and the last,so the second has to be much stronger ))

Last edited by ajg at 2/14/2016 10:34:25 PM

From: ajg

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Thank you for the list! My team is after draft already complete for the future=)

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250341.157 in reply to 250341.156
Date: 2/24/2016 7:13:27 PM
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Very nice thread :)

I was lucky with predictions on key moments last season, which allowed me to promote eventually.
However I can only handpick a few match this season to fight for a win (I did my best on TV in the opening and have the rival coming soon).
It means I'm demoting this one, but it won't be a setback. My next stay on II should be to win more matches, for a start, but not this one.

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