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What do you think of cross-training?

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From: giona

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191983.148 in reply to 191983.144
Date: 7/29/2011 10:33:30 AM
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Your opinion is very welcome, it's different from mine.

I think BB is a game, not real life, it has enough randomness, I didn't want anymore randomness in an aspect of the game like training. You like it, I see nothing particularly bad about it.

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191983.149 in reply to 191983.148
Date: 7/29/2011 10:41:50 AM
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Hey Dwight, we're going to train stamina this month. We will match any offer when you're a restricted free agent, but we're kind of short on cash, so you're strictly forbidden to watch tapes of Hakeem and Kareem in your free time. Don't you dare improve your inside game, understood?

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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191983.150 in reply to 191983.149
Date: 7/29/2011 10:56:09 AM
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What do you want, that I tell you that you're right?

There was a very nice post somewhere about the fact that in order to increase the realism of the game additional random events will be added, something like "The cheerleaders are particularly hot these days -> your players get distracted and underperform or undertrain"...

It's a game, it's not reality. It's supposed to be fun, your idea of fun is different from mine. Can't you people accept that different opinions exist on this planet? Are you compulsively pushed by some inner force to try to convince the others that they're wrong? Grow up!

From: Sindy
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191983.151 in reply to 191983.150
Date: 7/29/2011 11:22:33 AM
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It is a game, but it already has a feature which many games do not have, which is that the players don't really know the rules, but have to figure them out from experience. They don't publish the rates at which things train, as it is, for instance, but leave us to figure them out. Playing this game assumes a certain acceptance that things aren't going to work in a predictable fashion, so I think the developers can assume their players are already pre-selected to have a tolerance for that sort of thing.

If this game didn't resemble basketball at all, not very many people would be playing it either. All things being equal, approaching reality is a good thing. Of course there's balance in terms of making it a good game as well.

It's not the change I would have made; I would rather have people not in the positions being trained get some training, which would really mess with people's attempts to stop players from developing to keep them under the salary cap. I think managing salary cap by withholding training is kind of bogus anyway, it's pretty anti-thematic. However, it's required by another odd mechanic, which is that everyone has a one year contract. If you had a guy on a 5 year contract, you'd train him to the max and not worry about it.

In the end, it's just 10%. It's not a huge deal, it's a tweak. There are things much more annoying than cross-training in this game, and yet it's still quite fun. I think on the whole I actually like it, but it's not big enough for me to even feel strongly that way.


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191983.152 in reply to 191983.151
Date: 7/29/2011 11:44:37 AM
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In the end, it's just 10%. It's not a huge deal, it's a tweak. There are things much more annoying than cross-training in this game, and yet it's still quite fun. I think on the whole I actually like it, but it's not big enough for me to even feel strongly that way.


Yes and no.

If you have something that works, don´t change it for something random. This is the point of the mayority of our claims.

If you train FT and you get a pop in OD (for example), it´s a facepalm!

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191983.153 in reply to 191983.152
Date: 7/29/2011 12:17:11 PM
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I just wonder if with this new training system will it be possible to have up to 4,5 or maybe even 6 pops in different skills in 1 week ?...Of course all the circumstances would have to be at maximum close rate.Since 3-4 pops were possible before,then what is possible now? huh i guess we have to give it some time to find out what really goes on in tha city :)

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191983.154 in reply to 191983.152
Date: 7/29/2011 12:17:48 PM
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In the end, it's just 10%. It's not a huge deal, it's a tweak. There are things much more annoying than cross-training in this game, and yet it's still quite fun. I think on the whole I actually like it, but it's not big enough for me to even feel strongly that way.


Yes and no.

If you have something that works, don´t change it for something random. This is the point of the mayority of our claims.

If you train FT and you get a pop in OD (for example), it´s a facepalm!


Anyway, in that case OD is very very close to pop (ex. 6,9 to 7), so it's not such a big story, imo...

Last edited by and_system at 7/29/2011 12:18:31 PM

From: Sindy

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191983.155 in reply to 191983.152
Date: 7/29/2011 12:18:31 PM
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I trained FT this last week, but only because *randomly* one of my trainees got injured in the first minute of a game and resulted in me having less meaningful ID training. Completely random. He's out for 2 weeks. That's potentially 10% of his training for a season, the same effect this has. It's cool, tho, because injuries make the game realistic. Same thing.

I can understand wanting to play a game without injuries, because you like more predictable games. But Buzzer Beater already wasn't that kind of game, so again, we've chosen to play a game where stuff disrupts our plans, and we have to log in again each week or more often to tweak things based on unexpected events, rather than just wind it up and let it go.

And no, it doesn't make sense if one imagines a bunch of guys shooting free throws all week and then suddenly one learns how to play better defense. But no team, even a team actually focusing on free throws, does *nothing but free throws* all week long in practice. There's always a mix, just to keep existing skills sharp.

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191983.156 in reply to 191983.155
Date: 7/29/2011 12:33:34 PM
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So an injured player will get training in a random skill although he is injured and could only do team training under the old regime? Thats pretty awesome.

From: Mr.Mac

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191983.157 in reply to 191983.155
Date: 7/29/2011 12:35:08 PM
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In that case we could have an option to use a mixed training, but not random...

Even if he improves 0,0001 it makes no sense.

They could have changed the training system in a lot of different ways, but the one they´ve chosen is some kind of "we do what we want" despite of the fact that you can set the training you want.

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191983.158 in reply to 191983.157
Date: 7/29/2011 12:44:38 PM
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Hey Andrea Bargnani has been training ID for 3 seasons, and the only thing that improved is his HD, DV and JS.
That sucks, but training doesn't equal improvement, training = a chance of improving. In this game you're lucky, if you train your player you're guaranteed that he will improve, and that most of his improvement will be in the skill you trained.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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