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From: buliwyf
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53381.149 in reply to 53381.148
Date: 11/25/2008 12:36:20 PM
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I have to say i like the new system!

You have predictable future salaries and can therefore roughly calculate the price you should bit to get a new coach. And if you are pleased with a level 4 ataff member you can get them pretty cheap...

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53381.150 in reply to 53381.149
Date: 11/26/2008 10:30:13 AM
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I say the new system can be improved. A one time transfer fee that does not go back into the market, unlike a player transfer where it goes to the selling team, is just economic leakage. Unless of course is what the BBs intended all along.

How about getting managers to bid on staff salaries instead? 19k? 22k? 25k?
Much like RL, you decide how much you want to pay him and he'll accept the highest offer.

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53381.151 in reply to 53381.150
Date: 11/26/2008 10:52:00 AM
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How about getting managers to bid on staff salaries instead? 19k? 22k? 25k?
Much like RL, you decide how much you want to pay him and he'll accept the highest offer.

Not likely to happen: what this means is that if you strike gold on transfer day, you will be saving money each week for what, 10 seasons? Nah.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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53381.152 in reply to 53381.151
Date: 11/27/2008 4:34:07 AM
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You cannot save money for 10 seasons with the weekly increment in place. I only suggested removing the one time transfer bid with a salary based bidding system, not the weekly increments which ensures staff turnaround.

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53381.153 in reply to 53381.152
Date: 11/27/2008 7:21:33 AM
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So how would you make managers to change an staff by the time?

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53381.154 in reply to 53381.153
Date: 11/27/2008 9:56:01 AM
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You make managers change staff by using the current system where the wages increase weekly.

What changes in the system I propose is the staff's starting salary is dependent on the salary you offered him. So managers don't have to part with a lump of transfer funds which doesn't go back into the market but instead just payoff the severance fee and start paying the new guy his salary.

It also brings a sense of realism to the game where employers offer you better paychecks to change jobs, not a huge lump of cash.

Here's a bonus : Once you hire a staff, he remains yours for two seasons. After two seasons, other teams can offer him a bigger paycheck to prise him away from you. Makes those with really rare specialties be much sought after. It's very much a rough idea, not a complete product.

Last edited by Sparkle at 11/27/2008 10:01:57 AM

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53381.155 in reply to 53381.154
Date: 11/27/2008 10:02:28 AM
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I understand the system you are proposing, however meanwhile I will have an luck and get a coach lvl 6 with wage 25k, and this wage will be permanently 25k, I have no motivation to change him by the time...

..do you have any solution for that?

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53381.156 in reply to 53381.155
Date: 11/27/2008 10:06:39 AM
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Perhaps I worded my previous post a bit too blurry.

Wages are not permanent. Like the current system, it increases every week. So this week you pay 25k, next week you pay 25.5k and so on.

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53381.157 in reply to 53381.156
Date: 11/27/2008 10:21:08 AM
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Well problem could be on my side, while I'm not used to speak fluent english.

I suppose that this system would make you bid on like 50k or more to get the coach, wages could be enormous, because if there isn't such a staff member for a next 24 hours, there will be wage bidwar and than we are at the same situation, however with great expenses every week...

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53381.158 in reply to 53381.157
Date: 11/27/2008 10:32:55 AM
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50k would be a little extreme. If a manager decides that he wants to pay 50k a week to one of his staff, I say we let him.

Or if we don't go with the weekly increase if salary, we can go for the two season staff lock. Staff is paid a set amount which does not increase and is obligated to serve your club for two seasons. After two seasons, other clubs can 'see' your staff and his salary. If they think he is suitable, they can offer him a higher salary. You have 3 days to offer him a better salary before he leaves for the new team.

That way we don't have to worry about people keeping low paid staff for 10 seasons or so. And it puts the onus on the clubs to actively scout and pinch these low wage earners.

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53381.159 in reply to 53381.158
Date: 11/27/2008 10:49:42 AM
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On coaches with speciality and with level 5, 6, 7 - I would not see 50k wage as an extreme - without other investments.

You can imagine that if you want to erase momentally investment during bidding which is on current system (600k-2,2M), these money have to be spent by other way and this other way is on your suggestion a wage...

..this can create great demand from lower leagues, because they will be now capable to bid on that too, that means even stronger wage bidwar...

In this context is current system genious, in my opinion

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