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i missed get 6th one time my own, because i try to hard to get into the playoff and notice that an opponent already thorws his game away and the 7 th was to ar away to give him the "asshole" card(at least he would be happy about it). why such scenarios ain't possible in lower leagues, and the next question, is it really desirable to get loosing computions because beeing succesful sucks?

And even the difference betwenn fourth and 6th is often, is questionable because you normally get just one game with 1/3 income and even if you beat the often superior team away y still getting less money then the tea out of relegation.

PS: you posted it twice, maybe you could delete the first one ;)

PPS: Those teams who throw games away, screw also the rest of the competion in this league.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 3/10/2010 3:27:46 PM

Sorry I didn't mean to post it twice.

I think it brings a tactical side to being a manager. Does the team try and place 6th or 7th and simply get a good draft pick and play well enough to avoid relegation, or do you try and make top 4 and make the playoffs and have a chance at being league champion and promote, I think that as a manager you need to decide which one to do. If you try to make the playoffs and fail and come 5th then you shouldn't get anything for failing to make playoffs. If you try to come 6th or 7th and fail to do that then you come 5th as well. So the only way to come 5th is either to intentionally come 5th, in which case you shouldn't mind coming 5th, or you fail to do what you wanted and so you come 5th.

Teams throw games all the time, teams playing TIE against opponents they know they won't beat for example. Does this screw the rest of the competition in the league? Throwing games is part of the game and is a tactic that most teams use in some circumstances.

if i eman screwing games, i mean playing the third lineup with false positions against teams they easily beat - taking advantages of hopeless situtions in tieing isn't screwing up a games or competion because the outcome is the same.

PS: but they are also games screwed, who could be won but i think this shouldn't be the target of the game, if 5 teams in each division try to get the rigth amount of looses where the other 3 try to make the championship, and get sabotage from team who notice i neet a win because else i got 8th.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 3/10/2010 3:51:56 PM

And I wasn’t complaining above, I knew exactly what I was getting when I lost out on the fight for 6th place and finished 5th (I thought I mentioned that I was happy with 5th, but I guess that part wasn’t understood). I was just responding to what I thought was an excellent suggestion for what many see as a problem.

I know you weren't complaining, my post wasn't directed at you, it was just directed in general to people that are unhappy with coming 5th.

Would simply receiving 1 extra game for training purposes make 5th place so much more desirable? Having a 2 game week isn't that bad, you can still train 2 players in 1 position, or 4 players in 2 position, or just do one of the team trainings. I guess I don't consider coming 5th that much of a disadvantage except in terms of income. 6th place gets more income at the expense of potentially relegating. 5th place gets slightly less money and slightly less training for not having any chance of relegating.

If it adds to the integrity of the game, then fair enough. But personally I don't think that 1 extra game makes much difference. I like to train FT and stamina during this time anyway so I guess for me it doesn't make a difference whether there is 2 games or 3, except for Game Shape. But personally, I would still much rather be in 6th place, you would get extra training (if it went to a tie breaker), you would get extra income, you get a better draft pick, and as long as you have a better team than the 7th place, you are virtually gauranteed to not relegate. In which case coming 6th is still a much bigger advantage than coming 5th in my opinion.

Like I mentioned, I don't think there's much of an advantage with the income since the lost playoff revenue probably comes back in the course of the following season. That's why adding one extra scrimmage for training would essentially make the difference between 5th and 6th place a near wash

and for my team, i would say the difference betwen a season where i earn something or not, flying out of the first round of the PO amke me loose -900k the next to week, with a weekly income of 50-130 this is a lot ;) Playing a three game relegation series, give me and extra income of 1 Mio which gets me through the offseason.