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I think we don't need extra players in the draft,we need more useful players that caome from the draft
At the time,the only 19yo that you could think to draft are the five balls in skills and five balls in potential....maybe one player per draft,but the 19yo are the half of the players,so in the 48 players we ave in the draft,only for the age,the half are yet useless.

If it is not the best, it is automaticly useless?

i think there are already enough usefull players in the draft, and i believe if you make the draft class better there won't be more player in your eyes who are considered good enough to train, i believe you will look at even higher ambitions who you train.

Each team needs about 12 players, while the average drafted and trained player will have a career of, say, about 12 seasons. These are not exact numbers, but sufficient approximations to understand the supply and demand. So, you need one fresh face each season to maintain your team where it is now (in terms of age). Therefore about two thirds of an average draft class will be useless whichever way you look at it, regardless of their skill level (assuming some sort of maturity in the system, which we are probably only now beginning to reach).

Of course, there is a second source of player supply in the system: new teams. Making the draft stronger only takes money/resources from the new teams and puts it in the pockets of existing teams. I'm not saying we are at the optimal balance right now, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad balance either. I would be interested in seeing how large a portion of the draft class ends up fired at each division level.

I understand everybody wants something useful from the draft. I thing the last truly great guys (two of them) I drafted are from season 3 and the last really useful player is from season 4. There have been 2-3 players I have been able to sell after that. That's a long drought and I feel the pain of anyone who has had a few weak seasons -- or is still waiting for their first good draft. But simply improving the quality of the draftees is a short-term solution, which should be avoided.

Last edited by GM-WallyOop at 9/5/2010 6:56:10 AM

If it is not the best, it is automaticly useless?

19 years players with the same skills of a decent(not the best) 18 years old and with medium/low potential are not useful for me,because they have less value on the market of a 18 years old,have a slower growth(1 year more),and I can find player with the same skills and with 18 years old with cheap price on the market

Age: 19
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: star

Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: average Handling: awful
Driving: respectable Passing: average
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: awful Free Throw: strong

Experience: atrocious

This player would be a decent trainee,but if I can find a player younger,with the same skills and with an all star potential for 100-200k,considering that I have to spend 10k/week for 14 weeks in the draft to see him(140k in a season),I will not have any value from the draft if this player is my first pick.And I have to consider if this player worth to lose so much time on training to have a player who can be useful maybe only for a medium III division,or if buying a player for low price I can have a better player to have in my team or to sell with an higher value




Last edited by Steve Karenn at 9/5/2010 7:06:37 AM

Well if you consider to train the players for selling them right away, it is like that. In advance are players with great potential (above superstar) even more expensive on the market if you are training them well.

However consider this. Once you choose to train your draft for yourself, because you like to get more merchandising revenue, you dont need even superstar (well it depends on what you want to do), because better potential he has, more salary he demands.

I think it is only matter of priorities you have.

because better potential he has, more salary he demands.

better is the player(if you train properly)
If I continnue to always train star potential player,I will never raise to the top division,so a star player for me it's useless both to have them in my team and/or to sell them.
To raise the level of my team,I need to train better players,then if I fail to be promoted I will sell them and I will start to train new players.But star player will not improve my team or every team of a medium division and will not have good value on the market(being also older than players with the same skills)
10k more in merchandising are not worthing all the things I wrote

The 19yo at the time are useless,if you raise their level,at least you earn in short period what you lose in the long period

Back in season 3 every player was useful, that is the thing. There are so many players who could be amazing but their potential makes them worthless. Before there was starting skills and height but now there are 3 things a player has to have to be a great draft pick.

But 19 year olds suck, you can spend 5 minutes scannig the TL the week after the draft to see a good 18 year old draft pick is worth at least double a similar 19 year old, sometimes much more if they are really great.

I got a really useful 19yr old Draftee this year ((14839656)). I've sold him for a very nice price (Thanks Fluisterwoud!!) to a team who could really use him well. I also used him pretty well and he got pretty good Ratings during his matches.

I know all of us want to get a SUPERDUPER 18 year old draftee. A+ Grade, 5-ball Potential. But I'll settle for a guy like this every draft. Maybe not 5-ball potential, but I don't need that until I'm in Div 1. My best player at this time in my Div III season is a guy who has 6th man potential. He's maxed out, but very very useful.

So, my opinion is that 19yr old draftees are no problem to me.

Having the 19yr olds have a bit more experience or skills than 18yr olds is logical though.

Ye so does it seem like a good idea? To just spice the 19yos up a little, a little extra experience and such?

I got a really useful 19yr old Draftee this year ((14839656))
So, my opinion is that 19yr old draftees are no problem to me.

Having the 19yr olds have a bit more experience or skills than 18yr olds is logical though.

Thanks a lot,you drafted a 7,5k 19years old...

There's 1 7,5k 19yold that can be useful in the draft on all the 19 years old,surely your player is not the rule but the exception,the others simply sucks