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197980.15 in reply to 197980.5
Date: 10/8/2011 9:50:26 PM
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At the moment, it looks like the best accountants win, not the best global managers. We could give more credit to training and tactics that way.


Isn't those that manage their teams well, good at their finances as well? Tactics and training is only part of this game. The beauty of it is that you can play the game however you want. You don't have to persue a training regime if you do not want to.


Having said that, If the whole point is about making the B3 fair, then I do not believe this is the root cause of this problem. It comes from team's ability to load up and spend more than their income after having built a big buffer of cash that they can afford to make losses week in week out.

But why are they able to build up that buffer of cash? Most teams from competitive nations aren't able to as the competition level on their league will force them to have to spend big on salaries to maintain their level of competitiveness or risk relegation. Having to pay big salaries means they won't be able to build up that big buffer of cash.

On the other hand, it is the smaller countries where competition is low that the top teams there can afford to run a half competitive roster and still save up millions for that buffer of cash. Here is the reason why it is so advantageous to be playing in a smaller nation financially wise as you are able to save up to buy yourself titles so easily due to lack of competition forcing you to keep a full roster (close to your div's salary cap) all season.

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197980.16 in reply to 197980.11
Date: 10/9/2011 9:33:11 AM
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However I believe the Manchester United win owing to a great management while City may win with a great sponsor (accountant in BB). Isn't the best manager supposed to succeed in BB? That's what's on the ad...


the investor own a company, when they buy sposrship for a hifgh price is tit then ok?

I thought it was more about playing in dept in the bank not on money they got which count as a investment.

I mean sometimes you have invest on something before you get the profit this maybe the promotion, or building up a label with succes. If you buy a house to rent it to a third party, you are also 20 years in depth with it.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 10/9/2011 9:34:48 AM

From: Monkeybiz

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197980.18 in reply to 197980.17
Date: 10/9/2011 10:47:18 AM
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Right...then in similarity with the NBA then maybe we should introduce a soft salary cap.

The BBs devise a formula to get a salary ceiling and teams that have salaries above that ceiling pay a "luxury tax" so that extra dollar spent on player salaries above the ceiling requires the team to pay an additional dollar in tax

E.g if you are $50k over the ceiling, then you pay an extra $50k in tax. This would quickly eat into the profits of those teams that have millions saved up hoping to buy championships.

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197980.19 in reply to 197980.18
Date: 10/9/2011 1:43:01 PM
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"luxury tax"

We have practically the same mechanism in BB. But it is implemented in salary formula, not as extra tax. So we don't need it.
If You want to have player who is better by one level in all primary skills, then typically his salary increases to ~150% of previous wage. Very simple and effective.

From: B.B.King

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197980.20 in reply to 197980.11
Date: 10/9/2011 1:53:08 PM
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It's more or less a collusion between 2 worlds that I would illustrate with 2 soccer clubs: Manchester United and Manchester City. The first one is a soccer institution that has a great formation center to back up an awesome team. The second one has nothing but a rich president who will buy superstars and try to buy his titles. These are different ways of thinking and both can work.

Very very very very bad example. MU had more money than MC in many previous seasons and it was unfair too.
In BB we have Financial Fair Play. Every team gains money in the same way, in BB we don't have rich sponsor who selects few managers and gives him undeserved cash. Real competition is completly different because some clubs have extra money from outside which is independent of results. So I prefer financial structure in BB than in real life. And of course mechanism like in NBA will be stupid in BB, because only 30 clubs which were created at beginning have chance to fight for title, 31st, 32nd, and next have no chances.

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197980.22 in reply to 197980.21
Date: 10/9/2011 9:26:32 PM
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I believe the only way to really make things fair financially is salary cap of some sort. Otherwise VS situations will continue to happen. It would only really effect the top 1% of players in this game. That being said, I don't think it can be done anytime soon.

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197980.23 in reply to 197980.22
Date: 10/10/2011 1:52:37 AM
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I believe the only way to really make things fair financially is salary cap of some sort. Otherwise VS situations will continue to happen. It would only really effect the top 1% of players in this game. That being said, I don't think it can be done anytime soon.



vs could still buy more salary efficient players, cause he had the money to afford him. Maybe he can pay the loans longer then, but he will be still the faovorite.

The advantage is maybe that training elite multiskilled played get more lucrative.

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197980.24 in reply to 197980.21
Date: 10/10/2011 2:33:44 AM
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The 14 games deadline would not work just because of new rookies coming from draft. If you buy a trainee, you should not be forced to play him in league games. Usually it's the cup game that nets those 48 minutes. I think there should be a trade deadline for cup. This should be set at the time when the neutral ground games start. I don't know how easy it is to create 2 separate deadlines. How many bugs will come out of it (I'm already thinking about players unable to play league games or scrimmages because of that deadline etc.). 14 games is obviously too harsh (even 5 games is quarter of a season). Also so many different restrictions would make the game complicated to follow and would be additional load for the servers (tracking every transfers restrictions etc). Trade deadline is easier imo.

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