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262742.15 in reply to 262742.6
Date: 9/19/2014 3:22:38 PM
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2. Have you done any analysis on the 3-2 zone against quality Princeton team or a loaded gunslinger at PF in a Patient. These I suspect are natural enemies of this 3-2 zone with shotblockers.


Unless the Princeton team has guys who have IS to go with their driving, and can pass exceptionally well, the 3-2 will eat that up. My experience against good 3-2 zones (i.e., not those with a C defending at SF) is that you're going to have to hit a lot of drives or create open inside shots because the already-low shooting percentage from outside is killed even further. I'm kind of the opinion that so-called "open" shots are actually opposed by the OD rating of the defense, so in a 3-2 those "open" shots are less effective than they would be because of the increased OD. And of course they're not highly effective to begin with.

The one weak point may be if the PF/C on the 3-2 don't have much OD, since they will still be called on to contest a fair amount of deeper perimeter shots and occasionally even threes. But the SB is a nice recovery tool for that too. I suppose if the guard/SFs are foul prone or not as good at defending the drives, that can also be a point of attack, but if they're too bad at it then you figure the drivers get down low and face the SB monsters inside.

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262742.22 in reply to 262742.21
Date: 10/9/2014 1:57:23 PM
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I think a player like that will be really hard to make, mostly because it is very unlikely you will be able to keep IS that low even without training it directly and therefore the player will cost more. With 8 in IS his salary would be 50% more and it would not be a build achievable with 8 potential.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/9/2014 1:58:04 PM

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262742.24 in reply to 262742.22
Date: 10/9/2014 3:10:07 PM
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It's possible. You have to start with IS 1 and it will be okay. One of my trainees is now at IS 3 and with more training he would be at 5 or max. 6. Just stay away from all kinds of training which has an IS component (as far as possible).

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 10/9/2014 3:10:21 PM

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262742.25 in reply to 262742.24
Date: 10/9/2014 5:44:01 PM
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Yes I forgot you could potentially train One on One for Guards instead of Forwards. If you train forwards (5-6 pops because HA is 12), with that amount of ID and RB (at least 10 pops each) I doubt at such low starting level you get only 4 pops in IS, but I will check.

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All you need to do is stay away from 1on1 F and JS F.

I didn't see this reply, but yes I agree.

At any rate I've done some simulations and it doesn't look you get there even with a 7'0'' 18yo trainee, with all 7 and 1 at IS and a 6 level coach. 10/8/13 12/8/13 5/16/16/16 = 117 TSP seems like a more reasonable goal. I have a trainee who will get close to 51 in those 3 skills but he won't go past 9 in OD and PA.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/9/2014 6:02:12 PM

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