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Not any but many like they say. I been moderator in PowerPlayManager for 5 years, during that time they changed small nations together at end of every season (random draw depending are there more than 80% of bots on lower div). SO there are continental leagues Europe, Asia, America, Oceania. As most moderators and game developers are from big nations they never care about the affect of micronation's playerbases and the altercation about the league structures.

During the times when some nations got melted, their flags got deleted and they were moved to continental forum. When it first happened five and half years ago, almost 1/4 of playerbase left the game, as there was no hope of getting promoted for some teams (they didnt make count of who was consecutive league/cup winner, so ex. Austrian top div club could meet Albanian 3rd league, now both have grown game independence). Also Internatil tourney spots were made harder to reach by that as Euro overall league had 2 spots from highest div to get to the "Champions Cup" (other countries had 3-4 spots, reaching playoffs).

Another problem with this was, that as the forum was, well rammed together with total disregard of cultural, ethical, moral and infrastructural balance it had to compensate, for "better management".

I hope you all see now why merging is useless, and small communities help and support each other enough, even if they have 70% of clubs in first 2 divs.

PS Foyle please I hope you understand that countries like "Eastern Europe" and Iran aren't the noisiest. Everyone has fair rights.

I was referring to the thread where the previous debate took place. I'll rephrase for you: the countries who seemed to me to be posting most against change were Iran, and one or two countries in Eastern Europe. I have never said they don't have the right to post, nor should you insinuate that I did say that. I also have the right to post, as I'm sure you will agree. And I'm also sure you'll agree I have a fair right to disagree with you.

Gully.

Fair rights?

Like me starting again from V div and some Abdullah Scaramush starting in Krappy nation in first league that with 1 season of tanking get as much as 3 years worth of me playing? And get bored of it after 1 season i add.

That 1/4 of player base, assuming no other radical change, is simply crappy exagerate data.

Thats just the game weird rules: you cant represent other countries (many games respect the fact that players from bigger countries can go and support smaller ones by making second team or whole account there). If you dont have strength to battle bots or inactive people there is no changes needed, maybe just regional leagues.

All the Micronations combined make up like 5-10 percent of the games population. So we are talking about 1-2k users leaving...

...and to add a little cynicism: most of them are "worthless" to the game anyways, as they do not buy supporter.

I'd rather have a smaller and more competitive community, than an atomic league structure with micronations all over the place.

What an american thinking from an austrian.

In before the Hitler comparisons. Sorry, I could not resist.

You have to be realistic and see it as a business decision. A big amount of users from micronations is freeloading and clinging to them might be a bad move, especially if it drives away more (financially) valuable players.

After all it is not said, that those "we will leave in masses"-threats have to be taken seriously AND what is more important and offends me a lot, most of those threats were of "patriotic" and borderline racist substance. It should be questioned if this can and should be part of an open and friendly environment.

Let's make BB great again!

They should leave the nations there are now, but just pool the leagues of some regions that are geographical close togheter.

So for everyone that comes in, he will start at least in a III.

Simple as that.

They should leave the nations there are now, but just pool the leagues of some regions that are geographical close togheter.

So for everyone that comes in, he will start at least in a III.

Simple as that.

Sure that would be best.

But it's not to agevolate them, to be clear...

It's to make it fair for US that start from the abyss of a V division and have a completely disadvantaged play at the start (and for a couple of YEARS, non seasons).

They are not victims and should just buckle underwithout making too much of a fuss, if they are honest.