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BTW2: it is possible for a player have high FG% but low FT%. Take Ben Simmons for example. What is weird is having a guy who was supposed to shoot FTs like Stephen Curry but converts them like Blake Griffin.


Ben Simmons has a Jump Range rating of 1. He doesn't shot 3 points and barely mid range.

Blake Griffin shot more and more 3pts and was somewhat serviceable, at least enough to stretch the defense. And he was a 70% career FT shooter. Far better than Simmons.


Yes, but Griffin's FT would be something like 7-8, not 30, and we have players who have 30FT and shoot FTs like FT7-8 players even if their JS and JR are far from low.

My point is that in BB there are players who were supposed to shoot FTs like Steve Nash which are shooting like Blake Griffin and that is completely nonsense.

My point is that in BB it doesn't matter if your player has FT 7 or FT 30, it is a matter of luck how they are going to perform at the free throw line, which makes FT completely random.

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To me, JS/JR 10 with perfect FT technique makes sense to shoot 70%.


so if it doesn't matter if the FT is 30 (I agree 30 is ridiculous but still) and only JS/JR should count then just abolish FT... what's the point of keeping a skill which doesn't matter for its own sake?

but my point is that not only the 30FT player makes 70% but players with far lower FT (and with no special JS/JR combo) make way more than 70%!! that's nonsense!!!

it's not that I'm complaining that I had a 30RB player which only grabs 13 reb/game, because rebounding depends on the skills of the other players, but FT is the only skill that do not require comparison with other players skills! FT depends only on the player who is shooting, that's what makes this so bizarre.

Edit: the 30RB is hypothetical

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But do consider the FT formula may use a MAX equation where once FT goes above JS/JR enough it no longer has a visible impact.


That would be wrong in so many levels... anyway, just noticed that some players have quite average FT and very low JS/JR and do shoot FTs better than the guy I started this thread about... I'm giving this discussion up, it's all about randomness, just avoid FT lower than 4 and the rest is up to luck.

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For what it is worth my player with 32 FT is shooting 95.7% from the line this season.

JS: 17
JR: 8
IS: 11
FT: 32


That seems pretty much how it should be.

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Real-life teams do cardio and train for stamina all the time, whereas managers in BB constantly don't want to. It's vital to game mechanics because it should be. The reason you may not notice who has the best stamina in the NBA is likely because in BB terms all of the NBA players (starters especially) have stamina that is 7+.

The NBA is like B3. You don't notice stamina differences across players and teams because all of the guys for the most part have 7, 8, or 9 STM. On the other hand in college basketball (or D.II and D.III leagues for BB), you notice a much bigger difference when watching teams that are well conditioned and teams that are not.

Removing stamina for BB would be detrimental to realism, not fix it, in my opinion. It's realistic that if managers never train stamina, their players won't have high stamina and will perform worse when playing more minutes.


I guess no one is really saying stamina should be eliminated from BB, the problem is if stamina should affect FT (or if JS/JR should too and to which extent). My opinion is that the influence of other skills in FT has become so important that the FT skill itself has turned in to something somewhat cosmetic and borderline irrelevant.

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