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From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/18/2009 12:29:38 PM
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Whoever is reading this and just started please feel free to test out strategies and you can not win every game fielding 4 Centers and a PG + playing inside.


thats right, because more then two was bullshit ;)

BC Törööö has play a lot of different tactics. He might be stronger inside but you can not just play 2-3 against him every time or he burns you from the outside. Are actually giving newcomers advice to keep playing just one tactic. My god.


there are also young team who made it sucessful, other famous old teams who made it Hambourgh Bulls Run and Gun, Hip Hop Hooray(look inside), the dying Springfield Drunkers(look inside). This list could be completed with a lot other strong teams.

And in germany Stallions run and gun, Augustiner mainly outside nearly no inside offence, TSV Bogen Look Inside(take a look at their guard, and their games and opponents please). To take just the teams in first league ;)

In the defence you most be able to vary your style, in the offense also specialisation is a key.

Edit: Also you should think about that the game doesn't change, maybe they just get more vairiabel because on this level you have high optimated roosters. His opponent, won't have a chanche to match up his center when he trains then a while, or his shooting guards especially when they try to balance all out.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/18/2009 12:32:27 PM

From: Kukoc

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Date: 6/18/2009 12:42:16 PM
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You do not seem to understand the point.
If you play run&gun every game. I play mixed tactics the whole year. Now we play you have to guess where I attack from, I will always play 1-3-1 against you. Giving me a better chance to win on having the perfect tactic.
We are not talking about the old teams. It's pointless.
The new game engine should change the high IS skill guards effectivness for the inside tactics.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/18/2009 1:02:28 PM
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If you play run&gun every game. I play mixed tactics the whole year. Now we play you have to guess where I attack from, I will always play 1-3-1 against you. Giving me a better chance to win on having the perfect tactic.


and you don't getting the point that you could make this and still loosing, because the attack is so strong. You say i live in the past, i say the game engfine was the same so why this shouldn't work in the new days?

All these team i called above, have dominated the BB world with limited tactics. Even the top 16 teams in BBB, mainly attack with their good site, and get the propper defense when playing it(should i say that they was succesfull?).

The trend stoppped a bit, while he engine counts with relative and not absolute values(which BB Forest will change in the new engine at least for rebounding).

It is no bad idea, first to train the offensive skill from your training and then overwhelm your opponents, and you could take this game for a long time and don't have to sell trainees to get similiar players on the other position, it is enough to strengthen then with an eyeon their defensive qualitys.

Did you look at tsv bogen(very good example, he was promoting to the german bundesliga with a very cheap rooster in comparision to his opponents and runs 2:2 currently without guards), or the old BBB tournaments?


From: Kukoc

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Date: 6/18/2009 1:38:01 PM
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I said if the other team is way stronger you will lose with any tactic. Yes you figured it out they MAINLY attack with their better offence.
It's pointless to argue with you.
The teams that started in early seasons have dominated because they had way more money and have a big cap compared to teams who started now.
I'm done with this topic.
Conclusion: if you want to have a onesided team play one tactic and do not be surprised if every oponent plays the same defence against you're team.
If you want to be smart you creat an all around team and keep you're opponents guessing.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/18/2009 1:46:00 PM
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I said if the other team is way stronger you will lose with any tactic.


i don't talk about this cases, why you starting it - i talk about concentrating force and make a team partially stronger.

I said if the other team is way stronger you will lose with any tactic. Yes you figured it out they MAINLY attack with their better offence.
It's pointless to argue with you.


i could say the same ;)

Please take a look -> (34582)

The teams that started in early seasons have dominated because they had way more money and have a big cap compared to teams who started now.


so the next question is, why the teams dominated who started early and concentrate on one offense, and not those who did it the balanced way?

Did all palyer who try it this way, messed up in the areas and only those teams make all right and their only capital failure with the tactic wasn't enough to prevent then from succes.

If you want to be smart you creat an all around team and keep you're opponents guessing.


i though it gonna be to be a succesful team, but smart one maybe i follow your definition ;)

From: Kukoc

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Date: 6/18/2009 3:31:36 PM
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What to look @ in that team? That he CT-d his last game @ home and won? Proves you're point perfectly:D:D:D

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What about these inside players? I won the match away with 20 points + I played 3 subs as starters that game.

Last edited by Kukoc at 6/18/2009 3:33:25 PM

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/18/2009 3:41:57 PM
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What to look @ in that team?


that he promote with 4-6k guards into the german bundesliga, has won two games already also with this guards.

And as you said before, the guys play 2-3 against him and he still amnage to win a lot, and have the better rooster because i know his rooster a bit, and was pretty sure that when all Bundesliga rooster will sell their rooster maybe the other teams will get 50-100% more money then him i think in this case it is allowed to paly sometimes NORMAL.

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What about these inside players? I won the match away with 20 points + I played 3 subs as starters that game.


i won't say that it is the only way, to specialize. But i show you much example that you get it, that it works like it did with the best teams in thsi game - who reach that level through that.

And indeed you have the stronger rooster then him, and he forget to much about defence you must be able to defend both.

PS: (13107648) - comparavble rooster i think right tactic, and the opponent win to make another example for a specialized team ;) To give them fair examples.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/18/2009 3:54:49 PM

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From: BNycer

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Date: 6/18/2009 9:53:20 PM
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I just had probably the worst offensive game of the season for my club. Thanks to my team's mediocre inside defense and being monsters on the offensive boards, we were able to come away with the win. Shot 33% from the field, 61% from the charity line...overall terrible offensive display. I need some help finding the best offense for my club. Right now I don't really know what's the best system for my team offensively. I am making a change though for our next game, moving my current SG to the bench.

From: CrazyEye

To: Coco
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97586.25 in reply to 97586.24
Date: 6/19/2009 3:07:08 AM
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thats right this failure comes from time to time into my "dictionary", and i am actually sure my quote f being right is a bit higher then 0,0001% ;)

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