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232173.150 in reply to 232173.1
Date: 2/25/2013 10:28:45 AM
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how does the trainers salary affect his experience in training? higher salary means more experience or better trainer? or just time to replace?

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Date: 2/25/2013 10:43:05 AM
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I hope changes won't be drastic, cause many teams and NT-s have long-term training strategies that are related to this engine. Changes are welcome, don't get me wrong, but if they are carefully implemented. LI rules because there are not players who can defend it, it's easier and cheaper to train centers with high DR/IS then with blocking.

Anyway, nice to see you guys "from above" did not forget about community. Best of luck in your work.

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Date: 2/26/2013 10:50:18 AM
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I am willing to suffer a loss of some training if it means they will make a fun, realistic, interesting GE. We are all just sick of LI now.


The adjustment to shot blocking might affect LI, but i don't see how it makes the GE more realistic. As it is, LI is already goofy in the way it punishes guards that have good JS/JR. In real life you need some outside shooters in the backcourt to provide spacing. In BB, the lower the guards JS/JR the more effective they are.

BB managers have focused on building counterintuitive, specialized players for LI. Other tactics haven't had the focus of the community, though managers are starting to work on building the right pieces for outside offenses.

I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 seasons there will be much debate about motion and RNG being too powerful.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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I am willing to suffer a loss of some training if it means they will make a fun, realistic, interesting GE. We are all just sick of LI now.


The adjustment to shot blocking might affect LI, but i don't see how it makes the GE more realistic. As it is, LI is already goofy in the way it punishes guards that have good JS/JR. In real life you need some outside shooters in the backcourt to provide spacing. In BB, the lower the guards JS/JR the more effective they are.

BB managers have focused on building counterintuitive, specialized players for LI. Other tactics haven't had the focus of the community, though managers are starting to work on building the right pieces for outside offenses.

I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 seasons there will be much debate about motion and RNG being too powerful.


I just know I'm going to be furious in season 93 when Princeton/FCP get nerfed. ;)

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232173.157 in reply to 232173.155
Date: 2/26/2013 1:25:53 PM
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I just know I'm going to be furious in season 93 when Princeton/FCP get nerfed. ;)


That's when they finally address the issue with PG's playing at center? I needed a reason to live until season 100

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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Date: 2/26/2013 2:08:38 PM
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I just know I'm going to be furious in season 93 when Princeton/FCP get nerfed. ;)

Vardis Sourpis(s) will still find a way to make it work at its current level:

(55485194)

He's un-nerfable.

Last edited by shikago at 2/26/2013 2:08:52 PM

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Date: 2/26/2013 2:10:39 PM
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I think shot blocking already does affect LI significantly. It's going to be crazy if they increase it, IMO. For example my under $30k backup center is mostly shot blocking salary-wise & was one of the harder PF/Cs to score against in the NBBA according to what Wozz(?) calculated a couple seasons ago. Only 7 IS & fairly low Reb too, yet averages a 15.5 game rating & is super effective. Just there's not many players like him in existence & no one wants to train one themselves.

I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 seasons there will be much debate about motion and RNG being too powerful.

I think it's more likely than not that outside offense becomes "more powerful" than LI is today. I'm guessing they'll over-correct then deny that they over-corrected for a long time after. (like how they denied that finishing 5th was better than 3rd or 4th place for so long).

Last edited by shikago at 2/26/2013 2:11:32 PM

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232173.160 in reply to 232173.153
Date: 2/26/2013 4:44:18 PM
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Mate, maybe you did not understand me or I wasn't clear enough, it's easy to adjust training programs for future NT players when they are kids, 18-20 years. But I was not talking about that. Many players aged 23+ are trained to be competitive for this engine. And it will be a lot harder to (re)train them for this new one if changes are big and drastic.
Same thing for our teams.

I am also looking forward, but again, I don't wanna be in a total dark. Changes need to be small and need to be implemented slowly so that community has time to adjust.



Last edited by Ivko (for NT/U21) at 2/26/2013 4:45:10 PM

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