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From: docend24

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Well i think the impact is exaggerated in this thread but still I don't the motivation to do such a change. What is it suppossed to bring to the game?

From: brian

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If it's going to be HT style, which there's no indication that is what we're looking at exactly, it's an incentive to buy players from your own country, or train players from your own country.

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Well i would support more interaction between countries on team level (not just PL) nad for different levels probably. Something like UEFA competitions (european soccer) or simply anything.

The change affects all teams. I think there are not many teams training only their draftees (excluding teams training older 22+ players for wahtever reason) , simply because it is hard to get prospects decent enough (and at the right position) . I'm not saying top or good, just not waste of training.

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Date: 2/25/2009 1:00:29 PM
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Maybe you should chil out too and don't calling other people "hysterics".

From: Plotts

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Well I only have 3 players from my county on my roster and they are merely scrimmage fodder. I like diversity and I'm sure I have one of the most diverse rosters out there, and since I don't know what will happen, I will wait and see, but my stomach tells me to panic. He is usually right. Last night he told me not to do that last shot of Woodford, but I did and guess where I have been most of the day. Yes, the toilet... which is where my budget may end up.

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Date: 2/25/2009 1:04:34 PM
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In the game engine, your SG (for example) will no longer be restricted to guarding an opposing SG in a man-to-man defense. In other words, your position in the offense will not have to match your position in the defense.


I wonder if defense will start switching (when screens are set) or if it 'll be about setting orders.
for example:
Player x starting point guard
Player x defending shooting guard

The way it is written I guess it's the second wich BB's plan to implement. Will be interesting.

I hope for the second, partially because it would benefit me I think.

I can imagine third option - coach will adapt and change defensive assignements as he is supposed to do with tactics now.

BTW 1-3-1 is not considered to be a zone, is it? As there are going to be some changes in formulas for zone defenses.

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72142.159 in reply to 72142.149
Date: 2/25/2009 1:07:52 PM
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If the principle is horrible


That's assuming it's horrible, which it is not.

What is supposed to bring to the game except limiting different approaches to the game? I would like to know, I still don't know what is it good for?!

From: Bobun

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It should be easy to figure out the ratio players from country A belonging to active teams / active teams of country A .
Say Japan got 10 active teams, and there are 200 japanese players spread around the world, we have a 20 to 1 ratio. Now say we got 5000 italian active teams and 150 000 italian players , we end up with a 30 to 1 ratio. I'd say it would be harder for japanese teams to fill their roster with their country boys than for the italians teams. I guess to make it fair, japanese team should get a higher bonus than italian teams when using home country guys.

Bigger markets probably mean higher number of teams getting inactive. So even if more draftees are generated in bigger countries not all of them end up to be available to the world market.
It is easier to make money in smaller countries than in big ones. As mentionned before, starting in DI or DII allows a faster team development than starting in DVI. Competitiveness could be lower in smaller countries too. Meaning it is easier to stay at the top, hence being able to generate large income with teams not as great as top teams from bigger countries. Having a competitive roster without crushing the opposition increases the feeling of competition, and it means being able to save more cash. Then at some point with all those savings, it is possible to afford to build a roster with more top foreign players than other teams and compete in BBBs. That way elite teams from small countries could "steal" top players /draftees and forcing team from bigger country to either drop in quality cause they want to use home country players, or forcing them to buy foreign players which balance every thing.

All in all I fail to see how the bonus to home country player could be a bad idea when considering the big picture.

@BB-Charles : Early warning was probably the best course of action. People won't be able to say they did not have time to argue or they could not make preparation to be ready to handle the changes. Just add some pressure : screwing implementation will generate alot more noise.

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72142.161 in reply to 72142.151
Date: 2/25/2009 1:09:21 PM
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What's so horrible, and how is it horrible?

edit - i mean, based on this assumption that is causing people to jump to conclusions.
First I refer to my original post: (72142.70)

The motivation for introducing this "foreign player tax" is to making good better use of player nationalities (the good/better typo is from the news btw). This is a pretty weak motivation to introduce something that will limit the playability for most teams. You try to solve a non existing problem and limit the game as a consequence.

In this thread another motivation has been mentioned. Namely, that their is an unfair competition today, where top teams from small leagues get a benefit in the BBB because they have better economy and can use this to buy all top players. If this is the case, and it is seen as a problem, the problem should of course be fixed at the where it is created, i.e. income for top teams in minor leagues should be decreased. Trying to solve a problem by targeting the symptons than the real problem is almost always a horrible solution.

From: docend24

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Date: 2/25/2009 1:10:29 PM
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Please don't explain it by Hattrick not everyone is playing that game:)

Why? That's like communism the goverment would say you what you can and what you can't. Since the freedom of choice of starategy is doing no harm (agree?) I don't see why limit the options.

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