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I have read in other posts, and mostly from other large countries like Italy, that if you get demoted from I good luck coming back up. I believe before these changes there is allready a gap forming. This game is still relatively new, and the small trends we see now will only amplify in the future. More separation.

For several seasons I have thought the best drafted players should be skewed towards the lower divisions.
the higher the Division you are in the fewer top notch players there are in each Leagues draft. This would be a natural way to help keep any gap from too big.

will this changes to attendance affect every team, including II-V teams, or only the big arenas of the top divisions?

not exactly team training, but yes, training my entire team.
So far I never trained jump-shot either, something most teams probably train regularly.

I'm now even switching to a new tactic, the REAL teamtraining. I'm planning on buying good players, and then train them in free throws. ;)
Just to prove I'm realy REALY mad. muhahahaaaa. I just need 1 good center. Once I have him, my team training can start, until that time, I keep the regime I was using so far. And so far I'm getting away with it too. Ain't this game great? ;þ

I'm now even switching to a new tactic, the REAL teamtraining. I'm planning on buying good players, and then train them in free throws. ;)
Just to prove I'm realy REALY mad. muhahahaaaa. I just need 1 good center. Once I have him, my team training can start, until that time, I keep the regime I was using so far. And so far I'm getting away with it too. Ain't this game great? ;þ

Heheheh, I like it. Do you btw have an Igor at your mansion?

no, not that I am aware of anyway.

I also don't get the joke if it's one, I need some info on this one.

Only a joke, yes. I am refering to the fact that all mad scientists with respect for themselves has an Igor (assistant/housekeeper/janitor/collector of dubious items, such as brains) for assisting their master in their plan of world domination.

Btw, coming from me, that is to be taken as cred ;)

Edit: mad scientists = misunderstood geniuses.

Last edited by Svett Sleik (U21-Scout Norge) at 6/8/2009 4:36:31 PM

Edit: mad scientists = misunderstood geniuses.

YES!

at least someone who understands me. (evil-laugh)

now, I thing we should stop hijacking this thread.

Last edited by Lord of Doom at 6/8/2009 4:41:29 PM

Edit: mad scientists = misunderstood geniuses.

YES!

at least someone who understands me. (evil-laugh)

now, I thing we should stop hijacking this thread. :)

OH NO!!

The evil Lord of Doom has hijacked this thread! Please, someone, save us!!

Getting back to the changes - i'm curious to learn your take on the seeming disparity of value in training Centers and Guards.

Unless managers training guards simply try to sell their players less often and are training to keep we are seeing waive after waive of $50k + wage big men hitting the markets and regularly declining prices for their signatures.

Do you not think that the real reason we might be heading for an 'unsurmountable' gap between teams is that they just don't receive the real value of the training time they have put in? I've tried unsuccessfully to argue this point before but if the transfer ranges were higher then i think this could encourage more rounded training.

Just examples.

ie. Center with Sensational ID/RB/IS + Atroc. Passing & Handling is $2mil
Center with Sensational ID/RB/IS + Respectable Passing & Handling is often $2.1mil

Either managers are under/overvaluing secondaries and thats why we are seeing such condensed and tight price bands for similar primaries / different secondaries or the education to the managers on if the secondaries are important and making a difference is being neglected.

It appears at this rate as though the injection of TV money must have to be around the 10% level at minimum to bring back a bottom rung to the transfer ladder.

If the average half decent rookie is going to set you back 1-1.5mil yet you can buy a player who's had 3 seasons of training for the same amount then you are now forcing managers to try and make their weekly profit by not spending their full income on salaries. This being the case you are not encouraging roster development beyond a certain level irrespective of your financial set up and planning.

Maybe the stopping of Free Agents will change this but it wont happen overnight. Training rewards slowing down faster than any income stream is rising is the real reason I believe the longer term economy outlook is uncertain and the calculation of TV money is critical to the next stage of the game.

I agree with you that a long term strategy is a reasonable thing for a game to have, but the situation we saw developing wasnt just that we didnt want people to have to plan ahead, rather it was that in the long term, when everyone in d1 gets a huge arena and are the only ones with enough fans to support it then it would be impossible for any promoting team to compete and they would be sent down immediately. We want a gap in divisions, but not an insurmountable gap, and the old system was headed toward and insurmountable gap and had to be changed... in addition we have he ongoing economic balance to keep in mind and this was a way to kill two problems with one change.

that being said, its not like arena size isnt important anymore... we believe building arenas will still be important, just that at some point its usefullness runs out. So for a team working its way up through the leagues, trading off winning now, versus building for the future is still a dynamic we believe is part of the game.. its just at the highest level we dont think it makes sense to have arena sizes just run away indefinitely.

is planned to avoid gap in the new system, in recognizing the merchandize income on the league above into the calculations - because in germany there are different in the quality of the second leagues, so that you would have a big difference when promoting from a weak league to a better one - where you are unable to plan ahead.