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9808.154 in reply to 9808.152
Date: 12/17/2007 12:49:38 PM
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you may be forced to outbid a so called DT if the concensus now is to train and keep. If the number of teams is stabilizing then the current crop of better players may dry up altogether from the market.. i would imagine causing inflation at the top end of the market (which is fair for the reward of training) but to buy a $6k salary player over the next few weeks (especially ahead of the playoffs) i imagine will be more exp. and with injuries and transfer deadlines combined with lack of 'fresh meat' for want of a better term - better players will continue to rise leaving the leftovers trading hands for nominal fees.

but with 18,000 managers even if 50% train effectively thats a lot of players going to be hitting the markets in 1-2 seasons!! then we can see prices stabilize and a more realistic Transfer market.....





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9808.156 in reply to 9808.155
Date: 12/17/2007 7:18:49 PM
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fair enough... it just seems that the announcement just co-incided with a monster thread (this one) and the 20% seemed a number just picked out to appease the complainers...

if after consultation this is the magic long term number, great......

what did you think of the idea that more than 1 person can win an auction and then offer a contract and then a combination of length of contract and perhaps sign on fee would determine the outcome.. thus promoting longer contracts / less turnover of playing staff?

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9808.157 in reply to 9808.156
Date: 12/17/2007 7:22:49 PM
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For what it's worth, the news announcement titled, "Upcoming Major Changes," (which included agent's fees/commissions), came out a full month before this thread started.

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9808.158 in reply to 9808.157
Date: 12/17/2007 7:33:26 PM
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am i wrong or did bb loose a few thousand teams this week?
if so, thats a big impact on economy or thursdays will be flooded with players???

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9808.159 in reply to 9808.158
Date: 12/17/2007 7:44:52 PM
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This thread started when there were tons of good players on the market with tons of offers coming from day traders. I asked when the taxation should be introduced cause I was bored to see easy speculation on the market.
99% of people is happy about this new sistem, now we can really see who is a good manager; it's more funny to try to make a great championship with few money in the pocket instead of having millions and offer to every single player that seems strong.
As far as I know the BBs are monitoring the economy and probably other changes will be done in the future, in any case everyone that wants to have coach lvl 10 and 3 national player in Vth division is not a good manager. At the end, pls don't tell that the taxes are destroying the profits of the teams cause this is not true, I think I will not buy or sell anyone until the end of this season, this is a limitation (in my opinion not so strong) of people that waste the time making offers for all the day.

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9808.161 in reply to 9808.160
Date: 12/18/2007 1:57:22 PM
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Will there be a different tax for drafted players? Or still the 20% tax?

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9808.163 in reply to 9808.150
Date: 12/18/2007 9:46:44 PM
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offcourse it's not all black and white...

ofcourse daytrading is bad.

ofcourse we DO need it anyway.

ofcourse the effect is reduced by having fees for selling (the sooner, the higher the fee) so buying for 80k and selling for 100k will get you a loss now...

ofcourse daytraders ask too much.... wait....do they? hm, why is anyone buying then. nobody is forced to buy, if daytraders REALY ask too much it would be VEY easy for one to find a similar player for much less. So is it possible to ask too much? yes! is it likely to get too much? very unlikely. One can try, but do know players cost about 3k to 4k per player, and if you keep a bunch and have to wait until someone buys the guys for too much, it might have cost you too much as wel, so I believe this levels out in the end...
The fact daytraders can profit is that players sell their players too cheap, and if a daytrader can buy him too cheap, he can make profit by selling him normal, or high prize, I can't believe he would sell him at abnormal prizes... I tried it, won't work. ;)
So who's fault is it? I'd say the players that sell too cheap! ;þ.
No, we have 3 parties, the seller sells to cheap, the DT buys too cheap and sells too high, and the 3rth party pays too much... so don't point fingers at only 1 party here.

So let's stick with grey, DT is there, must be there and has to stay, just level out the effect with some mechanisms, the fees for selling is a first good step... I strongly believe that given time, BB will get to a nice equilibrium.
In the meantime the ones that are most fanatic with the game, profit much, they'll end up in high leagues, where they would end up after a while anyway given their devotion, it only goes much much faster now...

To end: everyone complaining has seen how it's done, so instead of whining about it, go on and try it yourself, if you're lucky, you'll make some profit, in the least case you'll annoy those DT-ers by raising the prises they need to bid, and thereby lower their profit. ;)
Should you loose money doing it (also possible!) it means it's not that easy to win tons of $ afterall...

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9808.164 in reply to 9808.162
Date: 12/18/2007 10:05:37 PM
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Not for players already drafted, who are seeing a % deducted.

Taking an agent's % on drafted players is just a tax on top of the cost to scout, bit overkill maybe?

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