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I agree with both of your commentaries about the increasing marchandising and number of supporters but this takes time before you economy really feel the difference because it's only week after week that it will pay (if you had enough money in the past to increase the size of your arena...). That's why a bonus for the champion team looked like a good idea to me...but the rules are the rules and we will have to deal with them...

Merchandise revenue in III isn't exactly the financial windfall you and Juice are making it out to be. I've 616 season ticket holders, and the most I've ever seen in merch is still less than $15k in a week. This is despite a 16-5 record (including a 12-game winnning streak) and clinching a playoff berth. I'm not at all attempting to validate the OP's complaints, in fact, it's quite the opposite. I believe that this game is above all a management simulator, and all GMs in basketball must find a way to make the best of what they have.

I pay just over 60k/week in salaries to players, and slightly under 37k/wk to staff. With likely similar staff, I'll estimate my wages next season to be around 66-68k/wk. And barring a playoff miracle, I'll probably still be in division III.

What's kept me comfortably afloat is TV revenue, training sales, and smart arena management (though I've made some recent errors in ticket prices; but I've learned quite a bit from those mistakes).

@ alexis38:
I feel your pain. But be patient; and work with what you have. Personally, I always look a couple of seasons ahead of the current one. My goals for next season are to have a much longer cup run and to improve my guards and SF, make another run at the finals, and hopefully promote. If that doesn't happen, I'll try it again in season 5.

:)

It's not the merchandise revenue (although yours is double the OPs), but the added cash from higher attendance and more cash from the TV games that is the main help.

It's not the merchandise revenue (although yours is double the OPs), but the added cash from higher attendance and more cash from the TV games that is the main help.

My merch revenue is likely double his because I have an extra half-season of playing BB, and with that, better than double the amount season ticket holders.

But you are right, and the 212k (I think?) for a TV game is much sweeter than the 160k in div IV. As far as attendance, however, when I was selling out my arena (before I screwed up on ticket prices), I was only making $12k in profit after paying salaries and scouting costs. This is likely what led me to increase ticket prices in the first place.

The best help I can give the OP in the short term is to expand his courtside seats by about half of what he can afford to expand. And perhaps lower the price of bleachers by $1 or $2 next month.

Are u sure that in third division you get 212k from TV? O_o" I think is too much.

The team salary is not a problem but this should be related to the division of the team; in Vth division there are teams with 80k team salary and of course in this case it's hard to keep the balance...

Are u sure that in third division you get 212k from TV? O_o" I think is too much.

I'm quite certain of that amount. I don't think it's too much, as I tend to rely on it to make ends meet ;)

The teams in V with 80k in wages have likely bought players they can't afford to keep. And I'll bet anyone a hot dog that any team in V with 80k in wages is a daytrader.

Div I -->400 000
Div II --> 275 000
Div III --> 210 000
Div IV -->160 000

If I am not total wrong, this must be the TV money paid in each Division.

I started about 2 weeks ago. I play in III th division. You start with a salary from over 55k for your players! I'm selling and firing players until I have 12 left. Then the weekly salary would come on 45k. If I wouldn't have a decent coach I would have 3k expenses on staff. Makes 48k expenses.

Whit out the bonuses we get the first week I would need 8k from my sponsors and at least 40k from arena revenue. (I can only dream for such high revenues)

I should need to hire in the first place a PR Manager (only had the chance of a lvl 2 two times) to increase the arena revenue. But even then I shouldn't be able to do scouting or to hire a decent coach to get a weekly healthy net income each week.

How can I make money? Probably by buying some 18y old trainees (good ones cost at least 100k or you need to pay that much for scouting) and hiring a decent coach. But if I do so, I would have huge economic losses the first weeks. And it looks like it will be probably necessarily to sell the trainees again to get back on a positive balance. Then I can just start over again with hiring trainees.

It looks like you need to get a positive balance out of temporary costs. And new teams have the disadvantage that they are not able to choose direct the right staff and they can't change prices of the seats directly for their arena (I will have to wait 4 home matches before I can chance those prices)

I'm not saying that having a positive balance is impossible for new players, but they need to set up at least a very good training plan and need to get their money out of temporary costs. I guess the economics aren't balanced very well. Any team who doesn't play this game intensively should make losses.

I saw some of you were arguing that low divisions like III and IV also in real life doesn't get much sponsoring. But have you ever seen someone playing in low divisions with a salary of 4k each week? We do get 18 players the first moment we play this game.

I know that there should be advantages for players in the first division. But they shouldn't give players who have just started so many disadvantages.

Edited by Elandor (12/01/2008 18:40:07 CET)

Last edited by Elandor at 1/12/2008 6:40:07 PM