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Interesting. I don't have 20k seats in my arena so can't be sure.
But read this thread:
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...

Wow theres already so many thread about this cap, still can't get the right cap lol.

I have done a calculation for this if the soft cap is really 20k ticket, and I think I read it in one of the 2 link above, he has a same point with me which is the profit for not building bleacher will be higher if the soft cap is really 20k ticket, take a look,

Assume:-
19550*20+450*70=422500
4500*20+15500*70=1175000

So, after that, I doubt that 20k ticket is the soft cap. I'm not saying that it is wrong but I'm just trying to find the right answer.

Last edited by Vandar at 9/11/2010 7:24:46 AM

I believe the cap is 20k and not income.
There are too many factors to prove this right now, but none of the views on the other side has evidence so it's still just belief.
There will have to be an inquiry into this.

If 20k ticket is the cap, will my way of earning more revenue by not building any more bleacher and just spend on building lower tier works?

Like I mentioned above:-
Assume:-
19550*20+450*70=422500
4500*20+15500*70=1175000

Its 600k difference, its a huge amount.

Last edited by Vandar at 10/17/2010 1:25:27 PM

So you are saying:

Bleachers * Price + Lower tier * Price = Money
19550 * 20 + 450 * 70 = 422500

Not all the seats will sell.
Reason - (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/38624/arena.aspx)
Top team in Australia only sells 17k bleachers at this price.
He only sells 1.8k Lower tier at that price.

OR

Bleachers * Price + Lower tier * Price = Money
4500 * 20 + 15500 * 70 = 1175000

Bleachers go to waste.
I don't think the Lower Tier will sell.
Reason - (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/38624/arena.aspx)
Top team in Australia. Sells 1.8k at $70. How will 15k sell at this price?

Are these Div1 figures you are predicting?

*EDIT* Fixed the top one.

Last edited by FannyPackMan at 9/11/2010 10:00:17 AM

The calculation I made is just an assumption to maximise revenue because it earns alot more by building just lower tier instead of bleacher if the soft cap for attendance is 20k seats.

Anyway, I just thought of another question, using the link you provided as an example, what if he have only 4500 bleacher and his lower tier is 8000, and his price is the maximum like it is now, the attendance for bleacher he gets is 8850 right and since that I'm assuming he has only 4500 bleachers, will the remaining of the 4350(8850-4500) fill-up the lower tier seats or maybe increase the lower tier seats by even an amount assume that the system works like reality, bleacher people can't afford to buy lower tier seats but still wanted to watch the game.

Just presumption, don't compare it with reality.

Maybe someone did a research regarding the above case, mind sharing it?

Don't know answer to question.
Not sure any real research was done.

Its okay its still a long way for me to built that much seats, lets wait for the right answer.

Consider this:
There are a particular number of fans for your team that want to come and see this particular game.
Each fan has a budget. This budget could be 4 dollars, it could be 25 dollars, it could be 5000 dollars, basically it can be any amount.
Every fan will buy the most expensive ticket that they can afford.
So a fan that has a budget of 5000 dollars will buy a luxury box.
A fan that has a budget of 150 dollars might buy a courtside seat ticket if the price is under 150 dollars, but if the courtside seat ticket price is higher than 150 then the fan will buy a lower tier ticket.

If you have your bleacher ticket prices at 16 dollars then lets say you sell 17000 seats approximately like this team:
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/26862/arena.aspx
This team is one of the top teams in Italy and is selling 2100 lower tier seats at 65 dollars.
This shows that at 65 dollars there are not many fans that can afford it.
Every fan that has a budget less than 65 dollars but more than 16 dollars (price of bleachers) will buy the bleacher seats.


Basically, having about 15000 bleachers, 5000 lower tier and 500 courtside seats and 50 luxury boxes is close to the "perfect" arena. This type of arena will allow you to make (according to people that have researched it) as much income as possible (if I remember correctly - the answer is provided in the thread I posted in an earlier post).