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You don't have to ban these teams, they go bot by design.
You are too smart not to know what's up.

thats why i mean, ban all teams who have great players and put effort into training them(or combine nt nominations with banning the owning team). By the way how is Arsis and Honda looking like?

Edit: Sorry for the case i didn't answer anymore cause Dachsbau looks very suspicious too.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/1/2011 3:35:24 AM

You´re making a huge thing out of something that "only" impacts a very small market. Don´t you think BB has lot other issues than doing such a huge effort (and actually you´re not really closing many ways of cheating) to fix something that impacts almost no-one?

I don´t even see much evidence to the fact of your farming theory, and even if it´s true - the most simple way to fit it is to ban player below 21 to ever become FA or to ban FAs at all. Period. Problem solved, isnt it?

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 7/1/2011 3:51:31 AM

maybe we are having a miscommunication and misunderstanding eachother.

look to whom i replied it, and which is message said basically ;)

In the case of new teams that are quickly abandoned....why should they care? They quit the game right away right?

every player who quit the game, doesn't care anymore about they player, so why make extra rules. Btw young team ussually don't crack the necessary salary. Also expect cheater to be smart enough to press the sell button, instead of making fa the things, with probadly ruining the nt enthusiam through the rescue action.

Also consider blocking all users who ever log in via proxy from having their players go FA.

better say reomoving fa for all ;) If i look in from the university it's a proxy, if i log in from the smartphone(opera) it's a proxy, lot of internet coffe are detected as proxys too.

And overall i think you overrate the problem with farmed players here, because the majority of farms is run legally. And farming could also make fun, like playing sims or tamagotchi, with your player.

And you´re trying to tell me what?

What are you trying to "fix"? Who is suffering from the "cheating" you have discovered? I speak multiple languages, write dramas, direct plays, spend 4 times a week in a gym and I am season ticket holder of FC Bayern Munich. That adds to the discussion exactly how?

Problem (as you see it): Teams are created only to generate players, who are trained for a while, then the teams are abandoned and the players enter the market.

Simple question: as anybody can buy them, and nobody gets the money out of that transfer, who EXACTLY is on the short end of the stick?

In worst case the "short end of the stick" goes to the huge countries´ NTs, who suddenly face small teams having solid players. But that only to some degree evens out the advantage huge countries have by simply having a bigger player base to get their players recruited from. And even if it creats a disbalance, it affects like 10% of the overall BB users, because the rest don´t give a sh**t for the NT competitions anyways.

Who are you trying to save and protect with all your changes, and why don´t you simply propose to stop FAs or FAs below 21?

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 7/1/2011 4:10:04 AM

Still, I´d like you not to draw any conclusions from your biography to mine, nor to judge on my level of information and scuoting and such.

Well, actually you forget that the FA system was implemented for a reason: it is meant to take money off the system / market. It is a tool to stop money from beeing "worthless", so your point of "deflation" is in a way true and wrong at the same time. The whole FA system is meant to balance the economy, it´s not "only" the cheatnig. It is MEANT to be deflationary.

There´s many ways to play a game, and saying that someone plays it "wrong" because he follows a different plan or because he´s trying to achieve other things than you wanting him to do is a bit narrow minded. Some players don´t plan for winning the title in their country at some time (because in some countries it´s simply unrealistic to ever achieve that), but for other reasons - the daily conversation, the training, the games, PLs, or whatever. Any reason is as valid as the other.

Teams playing "only to train, not to win" is a basic issue, no matter if there´s cheating, multiple accounts or whatever. You sound like anybody who is out there putting more effort into training than into winning it all now and at once is cheating. You´d be alone soon with that approach, as to some degree most teams focus on training once the season unfolds and they have a clue how big their chances are to achieve anything. Ban them all? This has nothing to do with your farm team claim.

The proxy proposal is silly for obvious reasons, as Crazyeye already pointed. out.

An increase in competition is bad? Competition is what this game is about. If achieving your aims would be a cakewalk, nobody would stay here for long.

And tt´s not like making a farm team gives you ANY guarantee to get a great rookie who is even worth beeing trained. You actually underestimae the effort players have to put into this concept.

Back to the original question: couldnt you fix most of your points by simply making sure players below age 22 cannot enter the FA market at all?

not being communicative don't means that they are multis, and also the opposite way to look at the forum post to decide if they are multis or not isn't right they are multi who chat with (maybe different tones) with all their teams or the majority of them.