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From: CrazyEye

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Date: 5/6/2012 3:54:11 PM
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you are right it is not all about realism, but i don't see the need to remove injurys. If you remoe such features,, which people considered in there strategy it cause more trouble then pleasure.

And talking for me, i am happy when i win against a team with a injured player and i think if you loose all your hope when loosing one player to win a game you risked this outcome in the planning stage. And "unlucky" outcomes can also happen in games, without injurys should they removed too? Would this make the game more intresting, i don't think so.

From: Sluuge

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Date: 5/6/2012 3:56:52 PM
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Tactics - It's a game, how many varieties do you want the developers to make? In real a coach can anticipate the moment, this is a browser game..
Training - How is this unrealistic on your behalf? As far as a browser game goes, this is as realistic as it can get. In real people don't go like, hmm lets train, I might pop 1 skill point on it..
Effort - ????
Attendance - Pretty normal to me, when you lose fans won't show, when you win they do, almost like real people.
Salaries - Ok you wanna pay 10 million a year for 1 player, go ahead.

From: brian

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Date: 5/6/2012 5:26:41 PM
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That's all off topic and to avoid dragging this thread out ill just go ahead and disagree with you on everyone of those.

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From: Sluuge

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Date: 5/6/2012 6:32:24 PM
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Thats ok, thats the point of a suggestion, you dont have to agree or disagree

From: brian

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Date: 5/8/2012 9:21:34 AM
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It is a bit nuts.


Yep. If we're looking for randomness, it doesn't have to be through injuries. IIRC, the BB's tuned down the level of randomness in the GE at one point. That could be reversed and would provide a more even distribution of randomness than injuries.

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From: Chekreyes

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Date: 5/8/2012 9:59:02 AM
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I support this suggestion, I mean a realistic game is nice, but I just lost three seasons of planning to field the right team at the right time because two of my guards went down in the last week resulting in a one point loss in the first round of the playoffs against an outside oriented team. I don't wanna just complain because I was denied promotion, but when a team receives multiple injuries towards the end of the season it can destroy months of time put into this game which does result in a 'net loss of enjoyment'.

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Date: 5/8/2012 10:11:48 AM
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That definitely stinks!! But in some ways deciding to field just 7 players implicitly accepts a significant risk of a bad outcome in the event of an injury. That's a reasonable strategic decision to make, and it seemed to serve you pretty well during the regular season (if that's how you did it). You fielded fewer players with higher average salaries, and benefited from their overall better performance. But in so doing, you chose to leave your team without an insurance policy in the event of an injury.

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Date: 5/8/2012 10:14:50 AM
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I had eight players but my starting SG didn't suit up due to an existing injury. My starting PG went down in the middle of the game leaving my team with a OD crisis. I admit only having eight players on a team was risky, but I still had more injuries than any other playoff team. I'm writing it off to bad luck. Very frustrating when an injury or two happens at that point in the season.

From: brian

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Date: 5/8/2012 11:39:27 AM
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It would be less of a problem if there was more control with rotations.

LCD plays starters too much and isnt ideal for training. SFDC is my pref setting for min and training purposes, but it's rigid and if an injury occurs you're in trouble. There is no easy fix for this as its the reality of a game in which all the planning is done pre-game without any ability to make adjustments after tip-off.

It's hard enough to control substititions which drive results, game shape, and training. Also consider how awful injuries are in real life. Doctors have been able to reduce and improve the length and severity of injuries. What if in real life they could be greatly reduced to the point where they avoid deciding championships and careers, wouldn't that be amazing?

Basically, removing injuries would cut out one layer of complexity/randomness, but that can be or already is compensated by aspects of BB that are, on paper, more complex and difficult to control compared to real life. Plus, its one of the worst realities of real life sports.

Last edited by brian at 5/8/2012 11:42:53 AM

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From: Tangosz

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Date: 5/8/2012 12:13:04 PM
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...It's hard enough to control substititions which drive results, game shape, and training. Also consider how awful injuries are in real life. Doctors have been able to reduce and improve the length and severity of injuries. What if in real life they could be greatly reduced to the point where they avoid deciding championships and careers, wouldn't that be amazing?


Frankly, I don't think it'd necessarily be amazing. Even in real life the prospect of a random injury gives teams an added layer of strategic thinking to prepare for things. And I say this as a New England Patriot fan, who were screwed over by Bernard Pollard twice. What if Brady hadn't gotten hurt in 2008? What if Gronkowski hadn't been injured for the Superbowl? Who knows, unanswerable questions. Though at least in the Brady injury, you could see that the Patriots planning benefited them, as they went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. There are endless examples of this in real sports, and it makes for great drama and great debates!

That being said, some greater flexibility of rotations would be awesome. Especially a choice to completely change the lineup and substitution pattern when an injury occurs.

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