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223332.16 in reply to 223332.8
Date: 8/15/2012 9:41:35 AM
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I don't know how 5.6 asssists for a SG is not passing. So many people say he doesn't pass yet they only look at the times he doesn't never the time he does
Agreed. (a spurs fan not a kobe fan)

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Date: 8/15/2012 12:57:10 PM
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I don't know how 5.6 asssists for a SG is not passing. So many people say he doesn't pass yet they only look at the times he doesn't never the time he does
Agreed. (a spurs fan not a kobe fan)

5.6 assists for a player who has the ball most of any other player (and SG is meaningless - he have it more than the average PG!) is not that much.
Surely in the NBA with their lose definition of what is called an assist.
Surely with the great inside players he can pass the ball to.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 8/15/2012 12:58:19 PM

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Date: 8/15/2012 1:14:30 PM
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Well that's because the Laker's PGs are a**. Anyway that's a discussion for a different thread

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Date: 8/15/2012 1:18:26 PM
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Well that's because the Laker's PGs are a**. Anyway that's a discussion for a different thread

In the NBA the definition of PG is very lose.
As a fact, Kobe is the one who's in charge on the offensive-flow.
For that, 5.6 AST is not much.

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Date: 8/15/2012 3:16:31 PM
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Like I said Laker's PGs are horrible. None of them can run the flow. Kobe is a SG not a PG he doesn't need to pass but he does. Now that Nash is there he will be the primary ballhandler only reason Kobe ran the flow is because they never had a PG like Nash look at the Olympics Kobe never was the primary ballhandler because he had CP3 and D-Will. In 07 his assists droped to 3.1 because CP3 was there. In 08 it dropped to 2.1 again CP3 was on that team

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Date: 8/15/2012 3:58:01 PM
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Like I said Laker's PGs are horrible. None of them can run the flow. Kobe is a SG not a PG he doesn't need to pass but he does. Now that Nash is there he will be the primary ballhandler only reason Kobe ran the flow is because they never had a PG like Nash look at the Olympics Kobe never was the primary ballhandler because he had CP3 and D-Will. In 07 his assists droped to 3.1 because CP3 was there. In 08 it dropped to 2.1 again CP3 was on that team

Kobe is the PG, as he is incharge on the offensive flow.
The same goes for Lebron. Although he plays the SF at deffence (or PF or C or PG or SG...), on offence he is the PG.
As you said - when there will be someone which will actually be the ball-handler and actually the PG, his AST will dropped rough, and then you could compare him to other SG [and see that he does not pass much...]

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Date: 8/15/2012 4:11:13 PM
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The assists only dropped because he played with Lebron,Melo,Dwight and Wade.
http://www.coachesclipboard.net/PointGuard.html

Kobe's first thought is scoring not passing.

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Date: 8/15/2012 4:29:05 PM
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The assists only dropped because he played with Lebron,Melo,Dwight and Wade.
http://www.coachesclipboard.net/PointGuard.html
Kobe's first thought is scoring not passing.
Ah???
That is what a SG is supposed to do, and when Kobe actually playes the position and not just upon height, his assist are very low compared to his fellow SG in the NBA

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Date: 8/15/2012 7:41:04 PM
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Well that's because the Laker's PGs are a**. Anyway that's a discussion for a different thread

In the NBA the definition of PG is very lose.
As a fact, Kobe is the one who's in charge on the offensive-flow.
For that, 5.6 AST is not much.


Kobe 23 shot attempts per game, only player in NBA with over 20+
he had 4.6 assists, not 5.6
and players who shoot a lot, such as James, 6.2 assists, Westbrook, 5.5 assists, Durant 3.5 assists, Carmello 3.6 assists

By comparison, I don't see Bryant as being as horrible as you say.
*edit* In fact, Carmello, whom is a notorious ballhog, and not a passer, had more assists than Durant. So I would call Durant into question for this.

Last edited by LBJisaCancer at 8/15/2012 7:41:51 PM

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Date: 8/16/2012 1:39:29 AM
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Well that's because the Laker's PGs are a**. Anyway that's a discussion for a different thread

In the NBA the definition of PG is very lose.
As a fact, Kobe is the one who's in charge on the offensive-flow.
For that, 5.6 AST is not much.


Kobe 23 shot attempts per game, only player in NBA with over 20+
he had 4.6 assists, not 5.6
and players who shoot a lot, such as James, 6.2 assists, Westbrook, 5.5 assists, Durant 3.5 assists, Carmello 3.6 assists

By comparison, I don't see Bryant as being as horrible as you say.
*edit* In fact, Carmello, whom is a notorious ballhog, and not a passer, had more assists than Durant. So I would call Durant into question for this.

Kobe is a great player but he is egoistic one.
Durant cannot be compared to Kove, beacause he touches the ball for much less time. Same about Mello.
Westbrook is a player much similar to Kobe in that sense, and he is also one that does not share the ball much.
Hence, it is not surprising that his stats are similar to Kobe's.
Hope that now you will not compare Kobe with Chandler or Howard which are Ceners that not really touch the ball that often, and in general their role is not to make a play for their teamate in comparison to a PG/SG which Kobe is.

Saying that Kobe shots 23 shots per game, and at least 3 shots more than the other players in the league, proves exactly what I am saying.
He touches the ball more than any. And the outcome of it is that he will shoot more than others compared to passing the ball.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 8/16/2012 1:41:05 AM

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