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Went with giant stadium build. Only a month away from finishing!

Empty seats are like fools gold. Empty seats don't make any baskets or free throws, empty seats don't make any steals or rebounds, empty seats don't make any three's or defend anyone. The money that you spend on empty seats could have been spent on players that do all of those things.

Empty seats built at lower divisions take a greater percentage of your weekly proceeds than the same number of empty seats built at a higher division. Empty seats are definitely, unequivocally fools gold.

To a point, but in general, I disagree. In this game, you need a lot of money and enough weekly finances to compete and make a run at the top league in the USA.

If you don't have an adequately sized arena, you won't have that potential. It limits the salary your roster can hold. So unless you're going to build a full team of uniquely talented, salary-efficient players that will take 7-10 seasons on 3 guys, you will have a hard time financing the salaries.

It's all about being able to have an arena size adequate enough to finance a division winning team at the next league in the promotion line. It would be interesting for someone to run an actual economic analysis on this. Obviously, different leagues have different thresholds, and salaries don't fully encompass talent, but I would be willing to bet there is a significant relationship there.

Dear new players,

Don't listen to Mike Franks. He doesn't understand how this game works. Focusing on building your arena and training players are the two smartest things you can do instead of spending your money on players. This game is a more of an economic game than a basketball game. When you are in DIV you should have your arena built for DIII before you promote, DIII to DII, DII to DI, etc. You potentially will lose millions of dollars if you don't. You don't have to build a 20k arena right away, but its not a death sentence like Mike would want you to believe.

The only time you should be looking to really buy players is if you have enough resources to win a championship and promote. If you do not have enough resources to win a championship, your team should be as a close to the salary floor as possible and really only field a team competitive enough to not relegate. If you don't have enough resources to do that, you should be investing in the draft and trying to get the #1 pick.

Being a competitive team with no shot at a championship is the worst thing you can do in this game. Players are a depreciating asset, so you will want to limit as much as possible how many player you buy. Train train train.

Phyr for president!

Coach Nuggets makes a good point about "adequately sized arena." An adequately sized arena does not conflict with the points I raised one bit. An adequately sized arena is about the seats you will fill when you promote. It is not about empty seats.

Phyr, on the other hand, is blowing the same smoke at new managers that has been blown at them for years by a few individuals. Notice, however, that even he didn't disagree with a single point I raised. Phyr, if you want to disagree with me, be specific. Which point do you disagree with? Here are my points again:
(1) Empty seats don't make any baskets or free throws,
(2) empty seats don't make any steals or rebounds,
(3) empty seats don't make any three's or defend anyone.

Your points are valid Mike Frank's but I have to agree with Phyr. Arena seats are needed. Build your arena first so you have that revenue. You say if they don't fill that's empty seats which is true but I sell 90% of my seats and it brings me 150k weekly income as long as you don't make some absurd prices like you have with your arena hence the empty seats. Buying players and not being able to sustain their salaries is just stupid. More arena seats=more revenue. More revenue=Being able to sustain good players salaries.

Build your arena first so you have that revenue.

Empty seats = ZERO revenue.

You say if they don't fill that's empty seats which is true but I sell 90% of my seats ...

Filled seats aren't what we are talking about.

More arena seats=more revenue.

No, not exactly. FILLED seats = revenue. Empty seats = money you could have spent better. Get it now?

Any experienced manager who can convince newbies to waste money on empty seats will have successfully postponed a bit of competition from the newbie, although some of them may actually believe what they are saying.

Moot indeed.

As the season and wins progressed I was consistently selling out 19,000+ seats in D-V, easily. I was making over 150K in revenue. I often tanked to D-V for that reason while rebuilding and training draftees.


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Size matters.

Sincerely,
A-Dub