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53381.16 in reply to 53381.15
Date: 10/11/2008 9:09:56 PM
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no in this type of games are 3 way to raise money:
buy and sell players continously
train and sell
win games and enlarge the palace.
The third it's an option that open when you have done the first or the second.

So if you take away from me the possibility to train and sell it remains only an option: the industrial trading. Ok, it's the developers choice, no reason to complain.
For me this is not management, but only a question of how many times you remain connected. Your choice, ok.

Just prepare yourself to count the corpses of abandoned teams.

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53381.17 in reply to 53381.16
Date: 10/11/2008 9:26:16 PM
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Just prepare yourself to count the corpses of abandoned teams.


Hardly.

I don't see any legitimate reason why the user base will not continue to expand.

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Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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53381.18 in reply to 53381.17
Date: 10/11/2008 9:32:48 PM
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It was, and it is, also my hope...but I think that this implementation need some urgent adjustements or it would kill the amusement of many players.
I hope to be wrong, naturally...really.

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53381.19 in reply to 53381.16
Date: 10/11/2008 9:34:32 PM
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no in this type of games are 3 way to raise money:
buy and sell players continously
train and sell
win games and enlarge the palace.
The third it's an option that open when you have done the first or the second.

So if you take away from me the possibility to train and sell it remains only an option: the industrial trading. Ok, it's the developers choice, no reason to complain.
For me this is not management, but only a question of how many times you remain connected. Your choice, ok.

Just prepare yourself to count the corpses of abandoned teams.

That's not exactly how the economic fundamentals work.

In the long run, you can't make money from winning game and enlarging the arena. First, there is a limit on the crowd that you'll get. Second, if you're making more than you're spending per week, that means that the next guy can have a stronger team than yours by simply spending exactly as much as they're making per week. So that's not exactly an option, unless you want to voluntarily run a weaker team.

As a consequence, the only way for teams to make money at this stage is to train and sell players. How long do you train them is entirely up to you. Either way, one thing doesn't change: the folks who manage their teams better will end up on top. It's really as simple as that. All rumours of the apocalypse coming are likely strongly exaggerated.


Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 10/11/2008 9:38:56 PM

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53381.20 in reply to 53381.19
Date: 10/11/2008 9:45:47 PM
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Perfect, you agree that the correct way to manage is to train and sell.
So, why are you taking away from me my first class coach?

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53381.21 in reply to 53381.20
Date: 10/11/2008 9:49:35 PM
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So, why are you taking away from me my first class coach?


I don't see anyone that has done so.

The BBs have always strived to ensure that there are difference between the divisions, so that D.I is clearly stronger than D.II, and so on.

Where in real life do you see D.V teams with the top backroom staff in the country?

Last edited by Edju at 10/11/2008 9:51:13 PM

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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53381.22 in reply to 53381.13
Date: 10/11/2008 10:39:09 PM
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Just the same way you have to figure out the optimal player skills, wages and tactics. That's what the game is all about, really.


True enough. My opinion is with the 3 things you mentioned, there was already enough. Sure, some people will want to be here all day and night. I, on the other hand, thought there was already enough to this game.

My point was there are other ways to implement their vision of the staff system that could have been less time intensive. You can give users a variety of choices without bogging them down in transactions.

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53381.25 in reply to 53381.24
Date: 10/12/2008 12:23:02 AM
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And also, i just realized, about the fact that staff members' wages fluctuate every week...

why is it so? now it looks like we have to pay more attention to staff members rather than the players alone... and as far as I know, the wage system of basketball staff members would only be "in talks" every offseason... not every week.

to me, it also looks like, it is implemented as an alternative to the old system's style, that staff levels fluctuate... and i think it's not a good alternative... because of the fact, again, that staff salaries doesn't get weekly salary "talks".


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53381.26 in reply to 53381.25
Date: 10/12/2008 2:00:12 AM
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i think before we just give judgement to this certain new thing we got let us first see and work on it.

remember why nintendo should have been the best game console now ( except for the wii ) is because they never let the PS which they paid sony to do research and development have a chance since they scratch the bloody thing who did become the best game console of a few years and which company benefited :D

i was ranting too couple of days ago, but its already said they are not forcing you to get those level 6 or 7 if you want them then you have to really get them.

since a level 5 is already equal to level 9 and 10,its enough to say that you got something than can give you constant result as before and not having the pain of knowing you cant get a level 9 or 10 trainer.

truth is im still pissed since and i agree that right now almost all players relies on the buy and sell of players especially from the ones they developed through training due to the economic down sizing and now plus this,

so getting a higher trainer makes them to train faster, not only that they can sell those bastards and get return money fast but we also have to see that every week this guys increase wages but since there will come a time they cant seem to say its worth anymore and bam back to buying staff again and most probably they will win unless someone who really save enough cash to rally himself to win.

all im saying is, life inst fair my friends we just have to take what we want and do something about it.

really its tough :P but im going to be optimistic, i believe the bb's have consider a lot of factors so im riding this through

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