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How you would recognise what was original auction time?

Are you serious? I don't think I even need to answer this.

a) prizes could go unnaturaly higher because people would like to bid "in time"

This makes no sense at all. Why would people pay more for a player because they had to bid before the initial expiry?

b)auctions could be decided in few first hours worse minutes and it would be more about who would find the player soon enough which is not fair for not hardcore users and users with different time than seller.

I can't believe that you think 3 days is not long enough for "hardcore users" to find a player oin the transfer list. It is actually better for the players who log more time because they are more likely to have seen the player. This point is just absurd.

And could be more abusive too,

Please elaborate, because I have no idea why you come up with that.

c) everybody would bid in last minutes which could cause troubles when 10 people bidding at the same time with the same bid

It already happens the way things are now.

this could happen now too but you can be more relaxed knowing if someone would make a bid you have +3 minutes, there is currently no fixed deadline to make a bid

Clearly you do not understand my point at all. The 3 minutes would still be there, but you would be required to have at least begun to participate in the bidding before the auctions initial time limit expires.

I think it is petty reasonable to expect that if someone is interested in a player they should try be there when the auction expires, or at the very least have entered a bid already. You claim it is unfair to expect this, but I believe it is unfair to the people who bid before the deadline to allow people to decide to join 30 minutes after it could have ended.

What about....if there has been a bid late on in the auction which triggers the 3 minute extension, rather than continually extending the time, it should immediately become a silent auction with managers allowed to bid a price (in secret) - the highest "silent" bid would win. All done with a 3 minute extension.

Each manager would only get 1 silent bid and it must be more than the final bid prior to the extension being granted.

I think it is petty reasonable to expect that if someone is interested in a player they should try be there when the auction expires, or at the very least have entered a bid already. You claim it is unfair to expect this, but I believe it is unfair to the people who bid before the deadline to allow people to decide to join 30 minutes after it could have ended.

Why?
maybe I just follow the bidwar and wait the right moment to come in. I don't need to make an early bid knowing that particular player will be sold for much more money

Or maybe I haven't been online in four days, log on and see the exact player I want with two minutes left to bid on him. Should I be punished and not be allowed to bid?

It's exactly as Superfly said. You don't have to minimumraise the bid every time, you don't have to wait 3 minutes before bidding again as well.

You can bid every second and you can raise the bid with whatever amount you wish. If you want to seal the auction in 5 minutes, just bid enough.

even if that is possible which it is,

you have to worry how the server responses because i have lost numberous bids already through when i bid the page refreshes for 2-3 minutes next thing i know i might have been overbid or didnt bid actually

The extension definitely should be there, however I believe that if a person has not even bid once before the original auction time expires they should not be allowed to join the bidding afterwards. I have been in situations where I have been still bidding on a player 30 minutes after the initial time expired when suddenly 2 ir 3 new bidders enter the auction. You should not be able to show up llate and still get into the bidding.

the problem is every time you bid you can't use the money for another player

I like the ideas of the silent auction or limiting the auction to those who are in the bidding war. The 3 minute extension allows late comers to the game who may or may not have known about a player initially. If they watch the Transfer list they would be aware of the fact that someone is coming up on auction.

What gets me is when Im in a bidding war with one other person, and its 15 minutes into the process (which is very common) and all of a sudden some guy comes in way over the top of both of us. Theres no reason for him to be in that if hes coming along last second.

I do my homework when im looking for a player and know when they are coming up and am usually right on top of things and usually when im in a bidding war, I start looking at their transfer histories and their arena and trying to judge how much expendable cash they have on hand. Then all of a sudden someone new comes out of the blue that never would have been involved initially.

I agree that the player/coach should go to the highest bidder however with this constant extension of time it makes for less than satisfying bidding. Also, sometimes Im looking for mulitple players at once and if they are 10 mins apart in bidding all it takes is 3 bids on player 1 for me to have a chance at losing on player 2. If I know a guy with a warchest of a couple million is looking at player one, I probably wouldnt bid on that player and would default to looking at player 2.

The idea of the silent auction I like because it doesnt require me to sit behind the game for half an hour letting some guy minimum outbid me evertime I raise by a solid amount. There should be a way after there is a bidding war established to initiate a silent countdown/bid and at that point it comes down to whoever is willing to cough up more.

the problem is every time you bid you can't use the money for another player

So be more careful who you bid for. If you bid on any auction anywhere in the world on anything you want to buy can you use the same money to bid for something else?

Besides that, how does that even apply to this scenario?

Or maybe I haven't been online in four days, log on and see the exact player I want with two minutes left to bid on him. Should I be punished and not be allowed to bid?

I fail to see how requiring a player to have made at least one bid before the original auction time expires equates to punishment. I think that if a player hasn't been on in 4 days he can expect that he may have missed out on a few players that he might have wanted. That is sort of the nature of the game.

Or can I place a bid on a guy I last an auction on last week because I had to take a phone call and the auction ran out on me. Was I "punished" because I had to take a call? I demand a new auction if that is the case.

Why?
maybe I just follow the bidwar and wait the right moment to come in. I don't need to make an early bid knowing that particular player will be sold for much more money

If you are followiung the auction then it seems you would have been there in time and could easily have entered the bidding. So what if you don't "need" to make a bid earlier. Is it really such a hardship to place a bid before the expiration if you are already following the auction?

In other words, as I stated once already, it seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.


Honestly I am stunned at the opposition to this concept. I was really expecting an overwhelming apathy towards it, but the way people are reacting I am actually starting to think that maybe I am on to something here. It seems like half the game doesn't want to bid unless an auction has already gone 15 minutes into overtime.