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From: Kukoc

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Date: 7/27/2010 5:48:31 PM
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But even with global market you can still buy the same players as other teams in your league. So global or not it makes no difference. B3 teams could talk about global markets influencing their B3 opponents, but there are not many B3 teams per country anyway, you are not certainly one of them.
So if everyone in your league is operating on the same level of team salary -> that means all of you have the same amount of money to use on the transfer market. So you can buy players in the same range, so can you please explain to me how does any other countrys transactions affect your team? If you could buy better players for lower values, you could also sell those players for lower value -> thus you would be in the same position now with even higher salarys and lower income. So nothing actually changes. How old are you anyway? Have you taken basic mathematics? No logic in your writings.

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Date: 7/27/2010 9:22:52 PM
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But even with global market you can still buy the same players as other teams in your league. So global or not it makes no difference. B3 teams could talk about global markets influencing their B3 opponents, but there are not many B3 teams per country anyway, you are not certainly one of them.
So if everyone in your league is operating on the same level of team salary -> that means all of you have the same amount of money to use on the transfer market. So you can buy players in the same range, so can you please explain to me how does any other countrys transactions affect your team? If you could buy better players for lower values, you could also sell those players for lower value -> thus you would be in the same position now with even higher salarys and lower income. So nothing actually changes. How old are you anyway? Have you taken basic mathematics? No logic in your writings.


Come on Kukoc - you are livingi in your own (self proclaimed) local world.

Point 1 - just because the group of BB3 teams is small in relation to the userbase I would bet the BB's certainly don't want new users to join, discover and start believing its impossible to ever make it into the BB3.

Point 2 - The game is global but it has been chosen that it should be played out in a series of localized leagues. The arguments have always been that the leagues have caused disparity and despite your immediate opponents having the same benefits/disadvantages to you the fact is a Japan II. manager starting today has more chance of making the BB3 than someone signing up today in Italy. (irrespective of management ability) This is the problem.

When this was originally discussed the response if I recall directly was along the lines of 'well the BB3 isn't that important and does only effect a small % of the teams' - which to me sounded like a cop-out because thats basically admitting, yeah we know the dynamics of the countries are different and therefore your BB experience WILL differ a lot depending on which IP address you use to sign-up.

Speaking from personal experience (disclamier - not everyone will agree with me, but run with me!)

The private leagues that pit the wits of teams from different countries against one another seem to be a very popular feature. I'd be interested to learn how popular from the recent supporter questions during the World Cup comp. Again suggested many seasons back and it has come up in this thread again is to look at how the local leagues sit within the 'Global' game and perhaps refine this to Regional leagues that are identical to one another (in terms of depth/structure). This way no matter who signs up in the future, they'd have an identical path to succeed upon and equal chances to reach the summit and BB3 (if that was their chosen goal.)

In reality its probably very hard to do - a mega job. Would it be worth it? Do players mind or wish to play against teams from other countries on a regular basis? Is the trade off to make a more balanced league structure for everyone worth it?

Well if you just take 6-7 weeks of 3,000 managers leaving then we've just waved goodbye to 1/3 of our current users in less than 2 months.

Might be worth another consideration.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 7/27/2010 9:27:31 PM

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:30:11 AM
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Personally I think a SE Asia/Oceania regional league would be awesome. I make it out to be about 2200 teams. Would be a lot more competitive than the 35 currently in Thailand.


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I'll stop to speak with you, no time to waste, I was answering to the other guy that said that the differences among leagues (not in the same league dear LA) don't influence the economy. I've a daughter, probably she has the same yo as you and her logic for sure is better than yours

EDIT: lol sorry...

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I've a daughter, probably she has the same yo as you and his logic for sure is better than yours :)


sex change mid sentence impressive .

From: Shawnas

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I think it is you, who has some problems with logic. What is the difference if all of you league affords salaries 800k, or 200k? I think 200k is better in that case, so it is more strategic options in building your team. BuzzerBeater is basketbal simulator and manager. If you want to be the best, you have to be good at everything. Or do you consider yourself a great tactitian only because you guess how will your opponent play, despite he being a better manager doesn't have to pay that much attention to you team?

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Personally I think a SE Asia/Oceania regional league would be awesome. I make it out to be about 2200 teams. Would be a lot more competitive than the 35 currently in Thailand.




I would love this idea. Then the matches between teams from the same country could work as "rival matches", nothing more.
It would really make BB more fair and square, no big or small countries and benefits.

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Date: 7/28/2010 4:18:27 AM
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Point 2 - The game is global but it has been chosen that it should be played out in a series of localized leagues. The arguments have always been that the leagues have caused disparity and despite your immediate opponents having the same benefits/disadvantages to you the fact is a Japan II. manager starting today has more chance of making the BB3 than someone signing up today in Italy. (irrespective of management ability) This is the problem.

I do agree with a new user i Japan have better chances of making it to BBB. On the other hand, concerning the economy, I cant find so many teams in small countries with way more salarys then for example the German first division teams.

/Mannen
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Date: 7/28/2010 4:24:36 AM
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I cant find so many teams in small countries with way more salarys then for example the German first division teams.

This is because they probably started to play 2 months ago

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I cant find so many teams in small countries with way more salarys then for example the German first division teams.

This is because they probably started to play 2 months ago


More because they don't need to carry the same levels of salary to compete at the equivalent level. (hence most of this discussion!)

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You think so? To me it seems teams are caped at 1000k. Teams in smaller countries have a easier time to fill their arena but even the top German teams fill their arenas. Merchandise should be quite equal. Leagues with better competition will get more tv-money. Smaller countries top teams will have a better shot at going further in the national cup.

/Mannen
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