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Player a is almost doomed with regards to the u21 spot. Doesn't have enough dr/ha/is. He should get pumped 1v1 forwards. Player b would have a shot. Pump 1v1 and then I'd. Balanced inside sf.

No one has built an elite SG that I am speaking of, so how can you even say that it is better? The build I am speaking of isn't necessarily devoid of HND/DRV/PA its just delayed, depending on POT and base build it could start training those at Age 20. Specifically if PA was to be trained then it would train fairly quickly.

My point on inside focus was on the last few season which seem like any big game LI or LP is run {you know if a game is run at all}, but maybe that's just me.

As far as waiting to see how the sim responds then starting to build after that is asking to end up lagging behind in the metagame that is 10-12 seasons of training.

But I'm glad that you all know exactly how the sim will react to the changes and that "your" builds are optimized to perform in it.

Cant wait to see your elite SG help us win a gold

Pretty much this. I can't speak for all candidates or future u21 managers, but if you gave me a 90 tsp guard at the start of the u21 season with the build... I'd have to give the player an opportunity to play so that I could see what he has to offer. For now we simply can't run this player out there without having one ready to go. We might as well analyze data from league games for the newest changes even though that is a rather imperfect science

I agree that we have lacked the SGs you talk about and have had very few. I also agree with making PA the last thing you train, when he turns 21 as it will train fast. I think there is the potential to see more of these in the future.

On a side note though- Spoon why dont you log back into the offsite and see what is going on. I hope you and everyone else joins with NT discussions this season and I would love to hear some of your opinions. Doesn't mean we will necessarily use tactics and players some suggest as I am focused on winning, but you never know when we might get the chance to try things. This comment goes for everyone as well. If you have tactic opinions or differing build styles for players then please send me a message or comment on the offsite for me to see.

I keep hearing managers speak of these inside training methods I've suggested as if the only thing I am focusing on is high IS and DV -- thus hindering our outside game and /or defense. Absolutely not, training 1v1f would allow us to create offensively versatile prospects with high JS/IS/HN/DV -- all the scoring one would need; while at the same time, also being able to switch back and forth from offense to defense. That is an incredibly quick and efficient way to stack both defense and offense -- which, with the little time we have to train U21 prospects, that's huge.

I don't know that i was implying that your builds only had those two attributes, but more that those two attributes were the cornerstone of what you would consider on the u21 team. A player with those builds with 7 OD, 7 PA, and 7 JS would not work, you would still need to do some basic housekeeping to make the build work out. The argument was simply that a more standard PG would still have to be in place (16-17 OD, 13-14 PA) and such a player is unlikely to have the desired DR/HA/IS to fit your build (JS being indfferent between the two).

Since EPK is no longer with us, I think, I will reply to everyone whom this question may concern.

With that in mind, are we not clearly explaining things (communicating) to the managers that are newer or new to the U21/NT scene? How will the remaining candidates address issues such as this? This is a manager that has been around on the off-site since S26.

I think sometimes we just PM the person of what type of player to build, and not the exact skillset that is needed for that build, as said.

With the newer group who doesn't necessarily use the offsite, I'll make sure the the scouts know what kind of options that trainer can use (that are realistic enough to do in order to either make the U21 team or meet their own club's expectations) and as we all do best, scout and give the manager's the best advice possible. I think our mentoring skills had taken a bit of a step back from previous years, as I know everyone is still trying to find the best way to get around with the finances they have in stock. But, with that in mind, this scouting program that I keep bringing up will enhance communication a lot with the trainers at hand.

I'll be gladly working with you if that means better NT players going forward.

In fact, we already have started doing this, with developing our own group for 18 Year Olds called 18 HOF. These HOFs, some of them are already put on the NT track, while others are going the U21 route. Every one of these players getting set for the NT path helps the NT in the future greatly. There are many options for U21, however those are strictly shorted for NT since you need HOF pot. at least on some of these players. So, I'd be gladly sacrificing a few of our best guys to be on the NT. It means greater chances of golds.

Towards the 2nd question, I would think it would be more of a coach--coach conversation since you are also a good evaluator of talent. I would probably want to bring in a few faces of the community, preferably experienced scouts so to speak. However, if this player is greatly talked about, I would hold a discussion for that player in a certain file. I mean Cliff Duncan was great and could've easily been one of our best U21 guards ever. He is being built on a semi NT route and still made the team EASILY. it all depends on the player and the people involved i think.

It's my understanding that this season's 21 year old class, especially the big men, is pretty weak. We talk a lot about long term strategies to make future classes better, but in the short term, how will you work around the relatively poor players you have at your disposal? Would you be opposed to calling up 20 year olds or players with less potential?

Lastly, what is something on your hypothetical BB Résumé that you feel separates you from the other candidates? Also what is a new strategy or something you would implement that goes against the norm or is different from past U21 managers?

2) I think we will find a way to help combat our poor class of big men this season. One of the alternative is looking into our 20 year olds of course, and seeing if they have what it takes to play for USA later in the season. Looking into lower potential players is a definite. I feel that the U21 isn't all about potential 100% of the time. In the real game there are no MVP and HOF. There is skill and skill. The better skill wins based on numbers, tactics, and more numbers like gameshape, GDP, and enthusiasm. Skill numbers mean more than potential in the U21 game, as long as a star has the ability to = a MVP. However that cannot be said about NT at all.

3) I think on the resume that separates me from other U21 managers is my activity. Sure, I can be looked at as a BB Rat but I can get a lot of work done, as seen in last season's domestic scouting, where I came in and got everyone a list...sure it took me time but I got it done and I took the initiative to get it done. I think activity is huge when being a coach. What I would implement? It's already in the process of being implemented with the help of various people. By Sunday night or Monday morning u should be able to see it.

Last edited by tough at 2/21/2016 12:30:42 AM

but more that those two attributes were the cornerstone of what you would consider on the u21 team.

My corner stone is based on scoring and defense. Example: for a guard you would train 1v1f and OD, heavily .

A player with those builds with 7 OD, 7 PA, and 7 JS would not work

You don't seriously think I'm suggesting we use a build based upon 7 OD? That's preposterous.

The argument was simply that a more standard PG would still have to be in place (16-17 OD, 13-14 PA) and such a player is unlikely to have the desired DR/HA/IS to fit your build (JS being indfferent between the two).

My builds have performed well at the highest level (Trainees: Meek, Isom, Kearney), there's no reason it couldn't work at the U21 lvl. Passing will still be around at the guard position, just less of it -- primary focus being 1v1f/defense.