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From: Thijs
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Date: 6/8/2009 10:13:07 AM
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Please read the news page.

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Date: 6/8/2009 10:55:27 AM
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ad. blocks - one example
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What I dislike the most that players were blocked regardless of how good or bad free throw shooting skill they have. There should be at least a bit of a difference. Another flaw is that you don't have any being blocked summary not even a line saying Player A was blocked by player B. Without that it is hard to adjust. Personally i think that without a trace how to analyze those things blocks shouldn't be changed so drastically at all.

Notice a disbalance of shots taken by guards and big men depsite Look inside tactic...

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Date: 6/8/2009 1:30:36 PM
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are you sure that is an example fpor added blocks, 12 blocks for one team aren't that special in past days even fpr teams with low blocking stats - as i sasid medium in the bundesliga was 7-8, which means this game was just average till below average.

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Date: 6/8/2009 1:58:51 PM
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It is about everything including strange distribution of shots and blocked shots. Simply the outcome including ratings should be different (not necessary the result). I know other teams experiencieng a big amount of blocks last game.

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Date: 6/8/2009 2:36:34 PM
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If we go back previous GE, please Keep it all the season, to not distort competition.

Thanks

PD. It could be most useful, test the new engine in PL.


I totally agree with Zuper-Julitos.
Changing the game engine in the mid of a season can lead to unexpected win or losses, which, in competitive series, can make you quit playoffs and enter playouts.

Test it on PL, I think that's the best thing.

From: Thijs

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Date: 6/8/2009 2:40:26 PM
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If the new engine was tested in PL only, that would give supporters an advantage over non supporters. I don't think that is going to happen.

From: GM-ksachs

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Date: 6/8/2009 3:02:57 PM
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it might give an advantage but it is also the best way to make the engine work properly. It cant be done in scrimmages when team play centers as point guards to get specific training. Or they should just keep the engine as is and make changes game to game and this way everybody gets affected at the same time.


You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count your money when youre sittin at the table. Therell be time enough for countin when the dealins done.
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Date: 6/8/2009 3:13:54 PM
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i would hate to play each game with a different engine - should i just draw lineups and tactics from a hat or rather play a tactical game.

For the record - postpone it till next season (or to never)
People cannot really rebuild in half a season and start fro mscratch effectively (which with last game mess teams builded some way would be force to do)

From: baldovius

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Date: 6/8/2009 3:38:39 PM
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another solution could be mirroring some teams and series and have people play on a "beta" version.

Last edited by baldovius at 6/8/2009 3:38:48 PM

From: giona

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Date: 6/8/2009 3:47:05 PM
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Test it on PL, I think that's the best thing.


Well, maybe you missed one point of the message posted by BB-Charles, that is, they can play all the test games they want, maybe on monday mornings, maybe the same games we actually played in several series, in several countries, during playoffs and playouts.

They can store results, compare them with 'old' effectively played games, tune, calibrate and repeat the process until they're satisfied with the results they achieve...

Then they can let us play with the new GE in scrimmages and PL and whatever you want to get us acquainted with the new rules...

This is clear to me. What is also clear is that something went wrong in this process, if it was actually applied.

Last edited by giona at 6/8/2009 3:52:39 PM

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Date: 6/8/2009 3:47:14 PM
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Well if they would make buzzerbeater2( called it Crunchtime of whatever suiting name), a totally different game (well the same except with the new engine) and let us register (our) new teams, I would be excited:) A chance to build a team differently, do new things and no need of rebuilding. And major shake-up in divisions resulting in all starting with simillar conditions. Do it!


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