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From: Jokehim

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106233.17 in reply to 106233.14
Date: 8/24/2009 8:52:24 AM
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I am not a fan of Managerzone and I think that it gets ridiculous when you get no gate receipts.

One way to solve the fifth place problem is to add another scrimmage to compensate for lost training and to include prize money so that the fifth place finisher gets prixe money compensating for the loss of gate receipts. You can also conside relegation games to attract much less people than regular season matches but I think such solution destroys the realism of the game in a not necessary way.

But I really do think that 6th place can't be more attractive than 5th in any sense. In real sports I never heard of a situation where a team actually want to lose to get more games and more receipts. To lose to get better drafts are something that certainly exists even if teamsprobably never would admit that so that they would have less people during late season.

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106233.18 in reply to 106233.7
Date: 8/24/2009 9:24:00 AM
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Would any 5th place teams truly prefer to risk relegation in order for an extra game's payout?


I do, this season at least, because of the big differences between conferences. Not just for the money, but also for training minutes and draft pick. In a harder conference/division I would think twice about it (but still consider it).

One way to limit the desire to end 6th/7th is to punish the teams season ticket holders. That would keep me away for sure.

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106233.19 in reply to 106233.18
Date: 8/24/2009 9:49:47 AM
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I do, this season at least, because of the big differences between conferences. Not just for the money, but also for training minutes and draft pick. In a harder conference/division I would think twice about it (but still consider it).


i would say as stronger the leagues get, the more effective is this strategy ;) Because you normally pay alot of salary in such division ...

I also doesn't scared that much through relegation, because i think i could come strnger back to the top division with my roster.

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106233.20 in reply to 106233.7
Date: 8/24/2009 11:47:41 AM
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This is going to be addressed as part of the offseason changes. However, we really do not see it as poorly balanced; 5th place teams have no chance of being relegated. Would any 5th place teams truly prefer to risk relegation in order for an extra game's payout?

I do. and I know a lot of other italians user who thins the same as me.

cheers :)

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106233.21 in reply to 106233.20
Date: 8/25/2009 12:15:58 PM
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If you're going to give money to the 5th place team, then it better be less than what the 4th team gets (1/3 of the 1st placed team ticket sales). And that's not much at all.

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106233.22 in reply to 106233.21
Date: 8/25/2009 12:21:42 PM
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The 4th place team has a chance to win the championship.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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106233.23 in reply to 106233.22
Date: 8/25/2009 12:57:35 PM
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Yep, I know. My point is that, I think if you give money to the 5th place team, then 4th place team would start losing league games to place 5th if they think they have no chance against the 1st place team. I prefer the status quo.

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106233.24 in reply to 106233.23
Date: 8/25/2009 1:15:18 PM
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If you finish 5th you have zero chance against the first place team.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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106233.25 in reply to 106233.24
Date: 8/25/2009 1:53:29 PM
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Obviously. But aren't the people complaining about $$$? They obviously don't care about the fact that they can get relegated if they're in 6th place.

From: Jokehim

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106233.26 in reply to 106233.25
Date: 8/25/2009 2:56:57 PM
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Some teams don't need to care about that as they will easily beat the 7th placed team in other league, especially as it is best of 3 matches.

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106233.27 in reply to 106233.26
Date: 8/25/2009 4:35:14 PM
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One suggestion would be to make the Relegation matchesbest of 1. In that way, it would be more risky than best of 3 to go there, and much less income!

!zazhigai!
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