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but what they have to do with each other?

Did the developer get the time back he needs for developing the roles, which he could invest for a tool which shows the points in the paint?

No he didn't

Did the remoovement of the feature give you a nice place for the point in the game stats, which fits into the site design?

I think not, and that wasn't your intention too.

Is world peace better then points in the paints or any development in that game?

I think yes, but with this logic we should stop developing everything.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/26/2011 12:14:31 PM

WELL actually, if you go to nba box scores, on nba.com, they have points in paint and fast break points :)

but officially, i dont think its something that you can easily keep track of. Its not an individual stat that is kept, more of a team stat.

I refuse to download third party programs where I need to install software that actually costs money in order to use it.

So maybe you could develop the tool that the guy who spent HOURS developing it, for free, off his own back, maybe you could write it yourself in OpenOffice? That would be great because I dont like using excel either.

Could you post a link, please?

edit:
Just did some googling and found a box score on espn.com that had, down at the bottom, points in the paint, fast break points, and points off turnovers. I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out! Do you know how long have they had those stats there?

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 7/27/2011 1:25:03 AM

All the NBA games box scores from last season on nba.com arent working, (probably my work computer not allowing the links)

So here is an espn link.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310225011

Down the bottom right of each teams box score stats, it shows points in paint, fast break points and and team turnovers.

No idea how long these have been kept for. But im pretty sure its only been the last few seasons. I scrolled back to a 2006 game (between the Sonics and Bulls - Ray allen was still playing for sonics at this stage. ha!)) and this page didnt have the points in paint stat.

So it must be a reletively new feature in NBA.

Thanks. I saw that. I went and looked on my own.

Points in the paint could be a beneficial statistic to learning about your team and how strategies work, while Role is completely
meaningless.
I can't for the life of my understand why someone would be against Points in the Paint statistic that could actually have some beneficial worth while we have some crap 'Role' addition that provides no worth.

Just for your benefit, i used to think that points in paint would be good stat for buzzerbeater, but i learnt a few things earlier this year that proved this to be wrong.
As I mentioned before though, this a game, has a game engine, and they are tied in with the activities seen on the game commentary when we watch a game live. You can make lots of valuable connections between your offensive flow, your PG's passing ability and how well he executes the offense your set, based on this in-game action commentary.

Let me give you an example. My team, I set Low Post as my offense. Using the stats I get out of the game analyzer, I was able to determine that my PG was dishing off to my SF and he was taking lots of mid-range jumpers, unguarded, but missing. It also showed me that my PG took a lot of driving lay-ups, but was missing lots of them.
So I was able to make conclusions about these. Buy a PG with better IS, buy a SF with better JS.

Im not sure if any concrete conclusions can be made about the 'Inside paint' shot statistic, which can be directly related back to a players/teams stats/offense/flow etc. etc. It might show that, when you played Look Inside, you took more inside paint shots, as opposed to Motion offense.... but we know all this already.
Points in paint isn't going to tell you that, your Centre is shooting atrociously from inside, or that your SG drops 3's all day, because his driving skill isnt up to scratch.
So IMO, Points in the paint WOULD be a meaningless statistic. Whilst a good idea for normal basetball, this isnt normal basketball, and the value of this stat isnt worth the time it would take to develop it. IMO.

AND world peace is over-rated unless its being pushed for by Miss Universe contestants.