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Maybe I qualify as farm as I am training a NT prospect and hopefully a NT player. Not as good as to enter the "highest TPS in BB" conversation (119 + 6, 25yo)

But when you are talking about rounding his skills, you always have the choice between more 1on1 traning or primaries. One will bring you higher TSP but the question is if it will also translate to better performance.

has there ever been a 150 tsp pllayer? (excluding stamina and ft)

Last edited by tough at 10/7/2013 9:36:47 PM

I wonder, what is the highest sum of ID/IS/RB/SB for u21 player ever.

I am questioning tps itself, not trying to make an argument against a specific training. I am saying if we give too much importance to TPS we can give up on other areas of the player.

For example, high IS low JS small forwards can be cheap, they are listed as power forward and OD, JR, 1on1, Pa are all cheap or free until the player changes to SF or PG. PA and 1on1 are important but can be overtrained in favor of Jr and od as they are faster to train.

About farms. They are an obious reality, i just do not believe they are as extended as you always propose. I have been involved in Spains NT for nearly as long as I have been playing the game and i,ve been NT manager myself. Only had contact with a farm twice. The first one was an exNT trying to sabotage Italy's turbato. Really embarasing and reported that instant. And an old timer that bought players and trained gs until we went bot. (A bigger problem if you ask me because we have no farms to buy 1m centers and lost a good player who retired). None of those were training farms.

Still spain won the Eurocup while I was manager and even if we have underachieved comparing our users to ceska for example, is that proof of farming on other countries? We still compete at a high level. Do are competitive nature mean we have farms?

You are not taking into account what high FT mean on the court. Guys with high FT will draw more fouls. If you could add FT attempts per game, it would make your statistics more realistic.

I agree with you on the driving and handles. Example...
A player was in the bin last week and the owner's player ad said that the player was the only player in the bin with 120 TSP+ for under a million...here was his stats...I copied them after I bookmarked him.
Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: tremendous
Outside Def.: stupendous Handling: legendary(+)
Driving: legendary(+) Passing: wondrous
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: average

A nice player with 126 TSP, but if you subtract the 42 TSP points for Driving and handling, he only has
84 TSP points and looks like this.
Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: tremendous
Outside Def.: stupendous Passing: wondrous
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: average

He still looks good but not a world class player.
I want to see some 100 TSP players there are not including handles and driving.



Last edited by Yellow cake at 10/8/2013 8:06:05 PM

your math is a little funny there. 104 for the bottom figure TSP total. Or you mean if you ignore the HA/DR alltogether??

The player I showed has 84 TSP points minus the 42 points for Driving and handles...126 total 84 without it. ....104?????