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I think he trying to say why be penalized for your hard work.. I agree with him.. Ita lot good feature in the game that allow weaker team to already win versus a stronger team.

As the those who say let see how it work before it lighting a fire.. why in hell would anyone want to do that. Its just neglecting your hard work.

Just because i have a 1.5 million dollar team and the next man has a 999K$ . That does not mean he will never beat me. But when he does I have to look at the facts. You cant win them all, the game has enthu and triaining . Teams are being beat 173-10 understand-able.. But Better training make teams stronger. Why should any manager be penalized for building a team into a tactic that's not called LI or low post? Now they have to play a guessing game. When we all damn well know they spent the last 3-4 season acquiring those outside players..


I voted no. Because I think with training in differ tactic this game can improve and balance . A lot of games are showing this to be true

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/14/2013 4:22:16 PM

Underdogs suppose to risk more, and thats the idea.

But they wont risk more, they will risk less, cause they have nothing to lose. if you have nothing to lose so how are you supposed to risk something if you have nothing?

Games are too predictable and weaker teams has a little chance to actually win.

Mots vs tie at home arena is somewhat +20-30 points isnt? too little chance? Tactics is not the case, TANKING IS THE CASE. Games too predictable because weaker oponents doesnt give a shit to even try win basicly. Look at any league, how many teams did any effort to get better this season after slow start? 0? maybe 1? How many teams sold key players and tanking rest of season? 5? 10? why they would gain advantage against other managers if all they do TANK and SOMEHWAT TANK with trash priceless players on the roster? WHy would they get advantage against teams who played hard at relegation series? More random wins, 100k salary trash team beats 200k good players cause of pure luck?WHy would a team get advantage while having 10k guards and 150k centers playing outside tactics? why would team get advantage if it cant use roster they have, balance roster for current tactics? Is managing a team worth something then?

Few seasons ago i had interesting league 4 final series. guy had Lithuanian u-21 big man 86k or so salary but skills at the end of season were near 200k i had 24k and 9k front lineup and few young trainees on guards i outplayed him with like 100k roster against his 250+k cause he had 3 huge big mans but raned outside tactics, while i raned inside tactics against his 3-2 zone:D Smarth eh?. Was he worth an advantage? Aparently BB managers thinks he was worth...


I tank too 1season league3 1season league 4 and so on now 3rd time gona relegate, cause i want good trainees but i dont agree that i should have an advantage against other teams because i am tanking.

On average after this stupid update tanks will get more wins whats means more cash cause of better satisfaction of fans.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 11/14/2013 8:32:24 AM

they wont risk more, they will risk less, cause they have nothing to lose

You're misusing the expression 'nothing to lose'. If a team has 'nothing to lose' it means that if their risks backfire it won't matter because they didn't have anything in the first place. But if their risks pay off, they still gain something.

Yes i agree with the 1st half of what you say, but not the rest. The games are to predictable? why because Look inside is the tactic to use. low post is that tactic to use. How is it my fault that I built a outside team and cant compete versus a inside side team no matter the cost of the players. Please don't use that championship team that use motion because look at his salary how many team will ever be able to afford that?

For every 1 sub par to good player for a outside tactic you have 20-30 Look inside and low post players on the market. That why it lopsided because look inside is the best way to play. low post is best way to play.. .To strengthen that arugement.. I can go find the best patient guard on this game and a somewhat good pf in Lowpost is worth more and considered better by our peers of the game.. How can anyone expect to win like that.? So in small im already penalized for playing a outside tactic. I don't have the money to buy the guard to even compete by the data of the game with look inside. They say train sb on big man. Why don't just decrease jr / js cost for guards while increasing the defense cost of him. The guards are already shooting badly in data base anyway.

Every season I have 1/5 mill -2 million in the bank and still cant afford the guards/players, I needs because the training would drive me in debt in 1-2 season time, while I could spend less and playing look inside. So again I'm already penalized . My team is nothing to scream at.. I'm about a outside shooting team. Its not hard to figure that out.

I don't agree with it going make them play differ tactic or build new tactic players. All I see is rise of m2m defense li, lp. iso inside.. because the cost are cheaper to attain to buy/ build and the market already benefit this already.

Speaking of Look inside in general, I have a somewhat related question (to all). Creators were always dragging about shot blocking, though most people were never focusing on that skill. I would imagine interior defense is the most important thing in wishing to stop look inside. And the reason why look inside is OP, might be the fact majority of bigs in this entire game, are insignificant shot blockers, meaning their interior is insignificant as well? Are there people who have dominant shot blockers? How you stack against LI?-u will/


In my personal opinion you need at least 9-11 sb to stop low caliber Li team.. You need that on your bench players as well. I trained interior defense on all my players and all I got was injuries. I don't think interior defense is the cure, if they have good passer and top notch inside men, sb does not matter.Im getting 10-12 block a game.

I don't know what you need to have to be honest. Im assume 15+ is effective.. I just know the more sb you attain the more fouls/injures. Also it problematic to play players with Gs decline and etc.. This just my view of what happening to me. I'm looking for answer my self

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/15/2013 1:38:33 AM

In my personal opinion you need at least 9-11 sb to stop low caliber Li team.. You need that on your bench players as well. I trained interior defense on all my players and all I got was injuries. I don't think interior defense is the cure, if they have good passer and top notch inside men, sb does not matter.Im getting 10-12 block a game.

In my personal opinion, you're wrong. I fare pretty well defensively against LI at a much higher level than you're currently complaining about, and I have one guard with 8 SB, one backup C with 8 SB, and nobody else above 6. The non-ID skill that you want to push into double digits on your big men to slow down LI is OD, period.

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 11/15/2013 10:19:33 AM

you play li . you don't have a outside shooting team. Don't give the Princeton tactic speech because that cutting to back side of the basket .big man passing open mid range jumper

look dude I have all of players training shot block,also inside defense.. I said big men need at least 9-11 to b e effiective versus lower caliber team. Where do saying higher caliber tem. Your one man does not win all your games.?

gradzik
Inside Def.: average
Sht Bloccking: respectable

christastiasson
Inside Def.: proficient
Shot Blocking: mediocre

those are 2 my guards.. you have 1 man like I have 3 with none below a 5 in Id.. None of my big men have shot blocking under a 9 , or inside defense under a 10. You can disagree but your team in not the truth for all team season success neither is mines. sb don't mean a damn on this game, it the offensive output that does... You play Li ,I don't.. thats the difference maker. Thats why your guard is effective

If what you say is the truth then I should be unbeaten. Am i not in the lower div . go check the season stats im getting 10-12 sb a game in the real world that seals a game. Sb it does not mean a dam, only inside big man offensive play does. Guard inside defense don't matter either only od does. this game has height mis match.

You can dis agree that's fine but I already been where talking. Its been try'd

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/15/2013 8:57:37 PM

you play li . you don't have a outside shooting team. Don't give the Princeton tactic speech because that cutting to back side of the basket .big man passing open mid range jumper

That's the biggest miss since "Dewey Defeats Truman." I have one starter that has double digit IS - a whopping 11. And one backup that has double digits - 13. Everyone else is single digits in IS. I have more players with 8+ JR than 8+ IS.

you have 1 man like I have 3 with none below a 5 in Id.. None of my big men have shot blocking under a 9 , or inside defense under a 10. You can disagree but your team in not the truth for all team season success neither is mines. sb don't mean a damn on this game, it the offensive output that does... You play Li ,I don't.. thats the difference maker. Thats why your guard is effective

And you completely missed my point entirely. You're talking about shot blocking, and I'm suggesting that you're looking at the wrong stat. It's not SB that you need on your big men, it's OD. Yes, OD. Not a typo. Get double digit OD on your big men and level-appropriate ID, and you'll do just fine defensively against LI.

im not trying to be rude. But Li is an inside tactic why would a big man need outside defense. when the guards has od.. it not like li is pulling the big man to the 3pt line.