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Anyone have thoughts on how the season is going for their team so far now that everyone has played all their conference opponents once?

I'm a little surprised where my team is at this point....We have won a couple of more road games than I expected....that said, I expected to beat Barbaric Yawps on the road, and lose to Extra Crispy at home....both games went to OT (In the same week) but I lost the game i expected to win, and won the game i expected to lose.

My team is not deep enough....My 8th player is too weak for D2, and my 7th player is right on the line. I'm looking to improve, but I am not going to blow money....Based on my record, promotion is a possibility at this point, but my trainees are not really D2 ready, so they certainly won't be NBBA ready by next season....but it's tough to not go for it if it's within reach.

As Ragman's said the Big 8 is crazy deep from top to bottom. Although Great 8 is more spread out in the standings right now, there's a whole lot of talent and depth throughout.

I was noticing this week that the Big 8 seems to be the conference with the top offenses, and the Great 8 seems to have the better defenses. I was kind of thinking I should be in the Big 8 since my team seems to be one of the top 5 offenses in the league, but in tonight's game vs Milwaukee their great defense had us stuck at 53 points late in the 3rd quarter (so not sure about that anymore!). I have been really confused this year by my team....We seem to end up close to 100 most games, but we go through stretches where we go 2-4 minutes with no points, or 6 minutes with 3 or 4 points...and then we explode for 20 points in 8 minutes.

Tonight's game was a good example of that....We only scored a measly 16 points in both the 2nd and 3rd quarters....and we only had 12 points in the 1st 7 minutes of the 4th quarter....so at that point with just 5 minutes left in the game, we trailed 74-65 but then closed the game on a 17-0 run to win 82-74.

This game continues to surprise me!




Last edited by Jason at 5/27/2015 4:30:47 AM

and lose to Extra Crispy at home....both games went to OT (In the same week) but I lost the game i expected to win, and won the game i expected to lose.

I hate this game.


I'm a little surprised at how well you have done as well... Thought you were putting on the finishing touches this season?
There are several teams that scare me in our side ... ya just never know!

I hate this game.

I feel your pain!

Thought you were put!ting on the finishing touches this season?

Pretty much....i didn't come in with plans to promote...but my team (despite being full of holes) is better than I anticipated. My goal coming in was to bank money, continue my trainee development and stay in the cup as long as possible. I am definitely banking a nice amount of money each week, and my trainees are looking really good, but have a ways to go, but my cup run ended way early.

I think my biggest surprise is that I have won as many games as I have with my B team. My A team is pretty solid, but my B team is definitely lacking....but we have managed some unexpected wins and that has led to where my team is right now in the standings.

I was especially proud of my team last night...we played a solid team with two players in the top 10 in scoring (a guard and a big, which makes them scarier with their balance), and leads the league in scoring....we had to go on the road for this game...and we never trailed, won all 4 quarters in the game, and won by 31 ....that was a pleasant surprise.

I was really hoping that Milwaukee would take care of business at home, but Congrats on a great road victory Stalzag! That was quite impressive! I have one more move to make....unless that move makes a major impact, it looks like this is your season to win and promote to the NBBA. As of now, I am going to try to get in your way, but your team looks like the clear #1 9 games into the season.

Allow me to rant...

The worst player on my team that actually gets minutes and isn't a pure trainee has 75 skill points (spoiler alert: its Russell Weller). I would consider this the absolute bare minimum. The highest priced player on my team makes $72k. I consider $100k the upper limit on sustainable salaries unless you have a generational player (like my old dude Rex Perez).

If you search the market right now for American players who have >75 skill points, make less than $100k, cost less than $1.5m and aren't in decline i.e. 32 or younger, you get 13 options. 13?! What happened? I feel like a search like this used to show closer to ~50 at any one time. Is it the changed retiree rules? The transfer game shape penalty? Other? Is it an American thing?

I have money burning a hole in my pocket god dammit!

Allow me to rant...

The worst player on my team that actually gets minutes and isn't a pure trainee has 75 skill points (spoiler alert: its Russell Weller). I would consider this the absolute bare minimum. The highest priced player on my team makes $72k. I consider $100k the upper limit on sustainable salaries unless you have a generational player (like my old dude Rex Perez).

If you search the market right now for American players who have >75 skill points, make less than $100k, cost less than $1.5m and aren't in decline i.e. 32 or younger, you get 13 options. 13?! What happened? I feel like a search like this used to show closer to ~50 at any one time. Is it the changed retiree rules? The transfer game shape penalty? Other? Is it an American thing?

I have money burning a hole in my pocket god dammit!

I totally agree....it's so frustrating right now looking at the TL....The only players that are any good are 33+, and even they are very overpriced! Average players that are 24-30 years are going for (or at least listed for) ridiculous prices. The TL and the draft are two things should be what makes this game thrive, creates activity and fun, and yet it's like there is an intentional decision to make these as boring and pointless as possible

Speaking of the draft and training. I figure that I am in the minority of people who do that. Either draft or buy 18s and build build build.

I've always thought giving a slight premium (other than the tax issue) to those who build via the draft would improve that component within the game. Right now you have to be crazy to waste money in scouting when prospects can be had for less than you invest.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you meant by "tax issue" but while I'm at it, the overextension tax is totally bogus. My team is cash flow neutral (for the first time in a long time ha!) without the tax but that knocks like $20k off my account each week.

Right now you have to be crazy to waste money in scouting when prospects can be had for less than you invest.

I agree, but when there aren't even 4 good draft prospects per draft class, you have to be a bottom dweller in the league to take a chance on investing and spending points to find a quality draft choice. I have spoken to the powers that be about this before...and it blows my mind that their position on this is that having too many quality draft picks would saturate the TL.....

This is crazy though, they have made the draft a non issue, and boring. We live in this era of fantasy sports and people that play fantasy sports live for the draft, but BB totally misses the market on that by making their draft as boring and inconsequential as possible. Even if an upper division team does land a draft pick, with the way things are now, that pick won't even be a quality backup for at least 5 seasons.

In real life, every first round pick makes the team that drafts them, and most 2nd round picks make the team, and a decent handful of undrafted players make teams...However in BB, 80% of teams of have 3 immediate cuts to make following the draft....talk about anti-climatic.

Last edited by Jason at 6/2/2015 6:21:00 PM

They grossly underestimate the majority of the users ability to botch a training program.

Also, maybe the solution is to have more skilled layers with lower potential. I'd love to draft a 2nd rounder who could be like my 10th man that I wouldn't have to bother training.

I dont post often but it’s nice to see some teams in the league sharing the same frustrations that I currently have. Just my 2 cents on a couple topics.

1. The Transfer List is ridiculous right now due to supply and demand. The supply of quality players that can impact a 2 league roster is low which is driving the price way up on all these players that are not about to deteriorate in skill level due to age. This leaves older higher skilled players available and even some of those are outrageously priced. Lets use my player Runkun who is currently listed on the TL. Sure he is a good player but if I were looking to sell him and replace him with similar quality (age and skill points) the price I have listed him at is what I would need to sell him at to replace him with a competitive 2 league PF.

BB is trying to use a Market approach while allowing sellers to dictate value of their players. This helps create more value for sellers due to buyers having little power which is evident by the current TL prices. If you want a quality player you are paying the sellers price. In order to limit the power of the seller, I think BB should use a true market approach and if you want to sell the player have minimum starting bids for like players. In order to do this successfully, BB would need to have a more realistic player comparison tool that evaluates the market for like skilled players on various skill sets and age and defines the minimum value for like players. If an owner decides to list him at that minimum price, then let the competition and bidding for the player begin. This approach would ensure that the seller at least would get minimum value and managers would think twice about throwing players up on the transfer list for ridiculous prices virtually risk free.

I also believe the TL is hurting by the commissions increasing for buys and sells. As a new team coming to the 2 league, my players may not be the quality I need. However, if I sell off players, then I am penalized for future sells (by higher commission) which can prevent people from listing players altogether or causing them to pass the commission on the buyers resulting in higher prices.

2. I completely agree with the draft being a waste of time. I haven’t scouted any draftee’s since the 4 league and I will not waste money scouting them. 1. there are few too quality draftees 2. the starting skill points of draftees will not make a difference at a 2 league level and 3. I agree that the starting skill points and training is so slow that each draftee is at least 3-4 season of training before allowing the draftee to be an impact player. Training draftees used to be my favorite part of the game in the lower leagues but I don’t think twice about it anymore and cut them or sell them right away. (Increasing the garbage players on the TL)

3. Home Court Advantage - HCA seems to be very powerful and unrealistic in this game. Sure, I haven’t been around long enough to know the ins and outs of the game engine and there are more tenured/knowledgable managers than me, but HCA seems to add 10-20 points across the board for each team whether they are a first place team or a last place team sometimes causing the better teams to lose games. (I understand upsets happen) In my opinion this is unrealistic. Take the Cavs and Hawks series for example, the Cavs didn’t give the Hawks 10-20 pts magically when they played in ATL. And using a Football example, the Texans home field advantage is not the same as Seattle’s. I feel BB should use the PR Manager feature to control the HCA. If teams want to spend more for a higher PR Manager then they should get a higher HCA. However, there should be tiers based on levels and if you have a last place team you should have the lower end of the tier for that level.

These are just a couple frustrations I am experiencing and its good to see I am not alone. Just wanted to share some of my thoughts since everyone was posting similar issues.

Add this to my list of grievances...

Just had a 33 year old double negative pop in outside defense from 18 to 16