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The answer to your question is yes. 15/10 will be the same as 15/5 or 10/10 depending on pricing. Also keep in mind that the maximum attendance is roughly 20k and seats are very likely sold in order: first the boxes up to 50, then courtside up to 550, then it would be LT up to 10550 in your example. You will sell as many seats as the price supports. So if you set LT to 25, you will almost certainly sell out.

So yes, with 15/10 you can benefit from higher bleachers in lower leagues and have an edge from higher LT in higher leagues. I wouldn't buy 5k extra seats just for that though.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/3/2020 5:52:57 AM

nah, in an extreme example you could sell 50 boxes, 500 courtside and 19.5k Lower Tier and you shouldn't be able to sell any bleachers even if you set them at $1. This has always been the general understanding of how the arena works. At least, nobody's ever heard of someone selling 21k seats in a normal game (league or cup), no matter what the arena composition and the arena size (there are people with 50k+ seats arenas...).

To have definitive proof, we'd have to ask someone with these outrageous arenas to put prices as low as possible and see what happens.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/3/2020 12:22:57 PM

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Someone selling 21k in a normal league game.

But still, good information (generally) to know. Thank you!

This is not just "someone" selling that many in a "normal" game.

I would not generalize from Venomous Scorpions to other teams.

Would be interesting if it is possible to "sell" 25k tickets with lower (lowest) pricing, saturday I had 20,7k (112046761) with 9 / 27 / 117 / 575 (20.000 / 4.450 / 500 / 50).

Last edited by LA-flaterik123 at 10/5/2020 3:36:28 AM

Firstly, thank you for your comments!

Will you please clarify what WR and STH are?

Also, would you mind teaching us how one can calculate marginal revenue of a certain seat type?
(For example, let's think about Lower Tier seats. Say, somebody has 2000 LT seats and their ticket price is set to $40. Cost of building one unit of those seats is also $700. In the last game 1500 of those seats were taken. Is this info enough, or does the manager need to do some elasticity analysis by changing the price of the tickets and see how demand changes?)

STH = season ticket holders
WR = world rank

You need to make assumptions on the overall receipts difference by expanding and calculate what will get your money back faster.

See this example, with completely random numbers. Say you have 8k Bleachers at $10, and 400 courtside sets at $130, they currently pay you $80k and $52k. You want to expand by $200k, so either 1k bleachers or 100 courtside. If you want to sell the new seats you'll have to drop prices to $9 and $115 respectively, what's better?
The new bleachers would give you $81k, the new courtside $57.5k, so courtside will pay back the $200k investment faster.

Going by memory, getting courtside to 500 asap used to be the safest investment. Between bleachers and LT it's harder to judge and note that bleachers are the most volatile category, but also the biggest money maker and possibly the most useful in the lower leagues if you often win away games. You probably want to bring up bleachers and LT proportionately since the difference isn't massive. Boxes typically pay back the slowest, give you the least money, but they are highly predictable.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/17/2020 9:11:10 AM