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5 ball skills player is a tragedy

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318764.17 in reply to 318764.16
Date: 5/16/2023 2:53:32 PM
Mos Eisley Imperials
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On the other hand, once you spend the 20-50 points to reveal the skills that matter to you, you'll be able to eliminate a large portion of the draft class. Some because their skills are too low to be trainable, and possibly some because they'll have a strong (8) or proficient (9) skill that identifies them as 19 years old if you want to focus on 18 year old players who can be truly maximized.

So you won't be doing scouting & interviews for the full draft class (especially if you've done most or all of the skill reveals), but probably more in the range of 10-20 players. And some of those you may stop after the initial scouting use of 1 point, when you see they're below your cutoff of trainable initial salary (assuming that you didn't already do a full scout reveal).

So in reality, a fully scouted season is probably going to be in the 80-100 point range, and depending on how much you want to spend per point you can get up to 84 points per season.

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318764.19 in reply to 318764.18
Date: 5/16/2023 3:44:13 PM
Delaware 87ers
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Here are my general rules for the draft

1) Don't tank for the number 1 choice. You'll probably be disappointed.
2) Don't approach the draft like a lottery, counting on selling your draftee for a profit. You'll probably be disappointed.
3) If you want to draft a guy to train, do the scouting combine, separate the 18 year olds by heights in the appropriate range given your training plan, and interview to find at least 3 acceptable selections. You'll usually get one of your first 3 choices.


Those are pretty solid guidelines.

That said, even following them can still lead to disappointment like my draft last season (i.e. not the one that happened yesterday) where the highest potential 18 yo's in the entire draft were PAs.

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318764.22 in reply to 318764.18
Date: 5/16/2023 4:20:51 PM
Franca Shoemakers Revival
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I don't think it's absolutely pointless to spend on the draft



The way the draft currently is, it's very pointless to spend on the draft.

I get the point of a few divisions featuring great prospects while most divisions only end up offering average trainees as best choices. Outstanding players must be rare to keep their value. That's ok.

The problem with this design is that you have to invest a lot and risk getting nothing most of the times, while most managers don't invest anything (because it's expensive, high risk and low reward) and some get free outstanding trainees because nobody bothered scouting them.

That said, I suggest the following:

In the mid-season, when the draftees are made available, a board of specialists should publicly evaluate every list of trainees of every division. 1 to 5 balls. 5 balls meaning something like "hey, there are at least 3 MVP+ 5k+ caliber players on this list", 1 ball meaning "be advised, the best player on this list is a 19yo superstar with 4k salary"... then the managers could make a decision about spending the points or saving for the future... this could encourage managers to always invest a bit and keep points just in case, spending them when it's expected to be worthy, (and when it happens, creating some competition within the division)... this would also assure that the great prospects end on the hands of teams which invested and not on the hands of random lucky bastards.




Last edited by Bernspin at 5/16/2023 4:25:15 PM

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318764.25 in reply to 318764.24
Date: 5/17/2023 2:51:42 AM
Rajdersi
II.2
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Draft is risky.

I got some MVPs or superstars in previous seasons. One 18yo MVP was foul prone so I sold him(not able to play >40minutes in scrimmage).
You can draft HoF and train for 10seasons and in the end you are loosing B3 final because of fouls

42 TSP 19yo is ridiculous. He has 31 skills less than my 19yo.

I noticed that 19yo with high potential have much lower TSP than 19yo with low potential.
I drafted 73 TSP 19yo 4potential.

I don't love draft, no high hopes just additional part of game.


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318764.27 in reply to 318764.20
Date: 5/17/2023 5:06:02 AM
TrenseRI
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That is true - some draft classes are just garbage. With the changes to 19 year old starting skills, some of those might be good. But there's no way to distinguish the 19 yo with 5K+ salary from those with 3.5K salary as they're all listed A+.

To try and improve this, we've upped the estimations for both 18 and 19yolds. We'll see if this helps things on the next draft reveal.

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