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39702.17 in reply to 39702.16
Date: 7/21/2008 9:34:09 PM
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There is an easy, simple way to deal with the issue: sell your national player, purchase player of the same strength that is not an NT player, and stash the rest of the money. Or never buy a player with a flag.

I can tell you right now that withdrawing a player from the NT will never be an option for gameplay reasons.

I agree that it is probably reasonable to receive a wage refund for each week of injury. This is not available right now. Tough.

I think most managers would be against getting training minutes from NT games. It is hard enough to have your best players play significant minutes in all competitive games as it is.

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39702.18 in reply to 39702.12
Date: 7/21/2008 11:20:52 PM
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And i'm sure Juicepats was one of the GM' who participated in that debate, if that counts for anything.


No, I wasn't one of them - I've always believed that injuries can be multi-game (though I've never seen one myself).

I'm going to try to find out a definitive answer, though.

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39702.19 in reply to 39702.17
Date: 7/22/2008 8:49:27 AM
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There is an easy, simple way to deal with the issue: sell your national player, purchase player of the same strength that is not an NT player, and stash the rest of the money. Or never buy a player with a flag.

I can tell you right now that withdrawing a player from the NT will never be an option for gameplay reasons.


That is ridiculous. Why would want to offer our players up for the sake of the game? It sounds selfish, but fair. In real life, you get the say if a player may or may not play in the NT.

So you are saying, that people should treat a player being in the NT a bad thing. Therefor resell them and replace them with worse players that are not in the NT.
And once they get selected for the NT, i should replace them again. Why should the NT result in such a troublesome routine?

By far the easiest way to solve this, is just remove injury from NT games. Not your way of trading players. Sure, it's challenging, but what's the point?

On top of that i could easily find a way to abuse this rule, in order to win the first league, as an NT coach. Not that i'm an NT coach, but you might see people invite a top-notch player from a competitive team in order to try and injure him via NT matches.

Once a player is branded an NT player, the manager will receive a handicap. An extra chance of an injury, without any advantages/compensation whatsoever.


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39702.20 in reply to 39702.19
Date: 7/22/2008 8:53:30 AM
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In real life, you get the say if a player may or may not play in the NT.


That's not true in most every sport. The Raptors fought as hard as they could to not let Jorge Garbajosa play internationally last summer, but he still played and hurt himself.

In soccer, clubs have no choice at all. In FIFA's international windows, clubs must release their players for national team games, period.

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39702.21 in reply to 39702.20
Date: 7/22/2008 8:58:31 AM
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Most of the international games are played outside the league period. Where as in BB, it's throughout the season.

I don't mind if they play 30 games in the offseason. I mean the offseason is practically a month or 3.


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39702.22 in reply to 39702.19
Date: 7/22/2008 10:19:11 AM
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That is ridiculous. Why would want to offer our players up for the sake of the game? It sounds selfish, but fair. In real life, you get the say if a player may or may not play in the NT.

First of all, it's not for the sake of the game. It's for the sake of the enjoyment of other users. What you're suggesting is hard-coding a sabotage tool -- I buy the strongest player on Bulgaria's rival teams, and pull him from the national squad. Perfectly legal. Go me!

And no, in real life you don't get a say on whether a player may or may not play in the NT. In most competitive sports, national federations are mandated by the respective international confederation to release players for NT games.

So you are saying, that people should treat a player being in the NT a bad thing. Therefor resell them and replace them with worse players that are not in the NT.
And once they get selected for the NT, i should replace them again. Why should the NT result in such a troublesome routine?

You are the one suggesting that you have a problem with your player being on a NT, not _people_. This does not come free of benefit nor free of risk. If you are not satisfied with the risk/reward ratio, you're free to replace the player with a player of equal or similar skill that is not an NT player.


By far the easiest way to solve this, is just remove injury from NT games. Not your way of trading players. Sure, it's challenging, but what's the point?

'By far the easiest way' to solve headache is to chop someone's head off. Hmmm...

On top of that i could easily find a way to abuse this rule, in order to win the first league, as an NT coach. Not that i'm an NT coach, but you might see people invite a top-notch player from a competitive team in order to try and injure him via NT matches.

Yeah, good luck with that. Should we also hide player skills from NT coaches? This is even easier to abuse.

Once a player is branded an NT player, the manager will receive a handicap. An extra chance of an injury, without any advantages/compensation whatsoever.

The fact that you keep harping on this does not make it true. NT players receive extra experience for playing in the NT games.

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39702.23 in reply to 39702.21
Date: 7/22/2008 10:20:34 AM
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Most of the international games are played outside the league period.

Not really true.

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39702.24 in reply to 39702.23
Date: 7/22/2008 11:43:52 AM
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The fact that you keep harping on this does not make it true. NT players receive extra experience for playing in the NT games.


I've never seen any proof of it. The experience system is the most random and ununderstandable thing in BB imo.

I've never seen a injury carried over from NT games to league matches as well.

Untill I see proof of any of these statements I assume that all NT games are played in arcade mode, just like PL games. Because that's the most logic conclusion atm.

I agree with most of the points of Rice here as well. Although GMs just do not get 'extra information'. What's know by the GMs game-wise can and probably is known by many managers.

PS. Speaking for myself here.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 7/22/2008 11:48:14 AM

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39702.25 in reply to 39702.24
Date: 7/22/2008 11:48:05 AM
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NT games give experience, that is a fact.

I'm waiting for an answer on the injury front.

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39702.26 in reply to 39702.25
Date: 7/22/2008 11:50:32 AM
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Yeah that's what they say all the time. My player played many NT games and almost every league game and cup game for the last 2,5 seasons and he only got 1 pop in experience yet (from 1 to 2).

The facts / rules might indeed be like that, but my feeling says it's just not right.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 7/22/2008 11:51:19 AM

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39702.27 in reply to 39702.26
Date: 7/22/2008 11:55:39 AM
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I've asked directly about this a crapload of times, and each time it's checked and confirmed.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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