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From: jeff44

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257780.174 in reply to 257780.167
Date: 10/31/2014 11:41:17 AM
usja78
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thx a lot for the clarification

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257780.175 in reply to 257780.168
Date: 11/4/2014 4:39:26 AM
TrenseRI
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@trainerman
I'm guessing that you are saying they will be swapped directly with the extra promotees from the division below (selected per record by bot promotion rules)

Is this correct?
Yes.
Further clarification, the structure of DIV for Utopia is to always expand (if we got increase in users) rather than have a DV? Is this correct?
Yes.
With the number of leagues in DIV reduce if we have less teams or just kinda stuck at 80?
No need to reduce because we consolidate the teams every season.
@Joey Ka
I believe this needs to be corrected for season 29 due to the filling up of Heaven:

D2 will have 6 teams demoting to D3 leagues, 2 playout losers and 4 direct demotees. On average 4 other teams promote to Heaven. Only 24 teams (37.5%) remain in D2. 4 spots are filled with D3 league winners. The 2+avg.4=avg.6 extra spots will be filled with best ranked teams from all of D3, as if the extra avg. six spots were filled with bots. Hence the bot promotion rules, which state that they will be ranked by conference position, win/loss ratio and PD. The distribution of these teams is random.

From 16 D3 leagues, 16+4x6=40 teams will promote to D2 (winner + on average 1.5 via bot promotion rules). Another 16x6=96 teams will demote to D4. 120 teams (47%) remain in D3.

So, this season there will be
- avg. 3 extra promotions from each D2 league via the third and final application of the "special Utopia rule",
- avg. 1.5 extra promotions from each D3 league via bot promotion rule

Whereas from season 30 onwards, there will be
- avg 0.5 extra promotions from each D2 and D3 league via bot promotion rule

D4 is special but will usually have slightly above avg. 0.5 extra promotions via bot promotion rule, both in season 29 and in the future.
After we fill Heaven, things will normalize. At the moment, the number of promotees per league is highest in D2 because of the bots in Heaven, but that's just the way things go in Utopia. The bots from Heaven will drop down the ranks and we'll fill the spots with extra teams from lower divisions.
To summarize, we'll handle whatever is needed when the time comes for it, not to worry.
@Sid Vicious
Perhaps the most dominant winner in this seasons Div III should bypass Div II and go straight to Utopia Heaven (Div I), so as to balance out the numbers
This is possible but highly unlikely.

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Date: 11/4/2014 6:21:14 AM
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@Sid Vicious
Perhaps the most dominant winner in this seasons Div III should bypass Div II and go straight to Utopia Heaven (Div I), so as to balance out the numbers
This is possible but highly unlikely.




I was actually a little bit tongue in cheek when I suggested that and perhaps a little bit too over confident about my chances in Div III this season.

Sorry

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257780.177 in reply to 257780.176
Date: 11/4/2014 9:51:05 AM
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Case could be made for Cup winner if he's coming from D3 or D4. I think whoever wins also goes to the BBB, doesn't he?

Edit: There are no Utopia teams in the B3 this season

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/4/2014 9:54:31 AM

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257780.178 in reply to 257780.176
Date: 11/5/2014 1:32:10 AM
High School Drop-outs
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I was actually a little bit tongue in cheek when I suggested that and perhaps a little bit too over confident about my chances in Div III this season.


Oh Sid, I thought you referring to me

Last edited by Mundy at 11/5/2014 1:34:18 AM

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Date: 11/5/2014 5:49:32 AM
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cup winners have been in B3 for two seasons.

From: chilu
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Date: 1/2/2015 3:15:37 AM
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Hello everybody
I've just win my conference in II.1 in Utopia.....do you think I'm promoted to Heaven , like the season before???

From: KwaiWah

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Date: 1/2/2015 6:37:28 AM
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You only win your conference when you reach the PO Finals.
However, you do have a high chance to promote even if you did not reach PO Finals based on your Win-Loss ratio and PD

From: chilu

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Date: 1/2/2015 9:19:53 AM
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Are you sure??? last year many teams arrived 2nd in conference League and not in PO finals are promoted to second division!!

From: KwaiWah

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257780.183 in reply to 257780.182
Date: 1/2/2015 10:33:33 AM
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Yes, you need only to scroll up the thread to confirm.

Heaven will have 16 spots but only 8 will be filled with conference winners of Div II. The remaining 8 will be the top 8 teams who did not reach PO Finals but have the best win-loss ratio + point differential

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Date: 1/4/2015 1:46:23 PM
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