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From: CrazyEye

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119498.18 in reply to 119498.17
Date: 11/22/2009 6:17:48 PM
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Really? No player gets created with skills above 7? Didn't know that. Always learning :P


not in the top ten skills, free throw could start with strong(maybe stamina too)

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119498.20 in reply to 119498.6
Date: 11/23/2009 5:20:59 AM
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mate. let me give you one advice. i have tried to understand the GE for many seasons now and have had the same problems like you.

1.There happen so many things in this game and they make no sense.
2.if you than ask for help, you get answers like you TIED, your team ran out off stamina, wrong tactics etc etc etc.

My team is an outside team. Until this season I have always played outside attack, and like you I end up many games with 25% shooting for my guards, some games even worse.

Look at my last game and this isnt a fluke. My center hit 3-3 3p attempts. Same for my backup guard Ubriaco, who is miles behind when it comes to total skill set, shoots 2-2 3p attempts. I can guarantee you that my 2 guards Tavares and Ortiz have way better skill sets than these other 2 players, especially when it comes to shooting skills outside and have a way worse %.

For all the people out there I won, so this isnt a complaint!!! Or I am a bad looser etc etc etc


Now have a look at my Pl game from last friday. I am playing against a team with no outside defense. Again I am playing this time a real outside offense and i shoot about 30% from behind the line. Once again, my best players by far shoot duds. These are guardia and tavares. And pucheta my 19 year old player I am training inside skills hits 100%???

Another example. Look at my outside shooting % in my league game against Hounds. Agains abysmal. He is a very weak team and also has barely any outside defense. My wondrous JS guy shoots 0-5... And yes, he has al decent JR too.

I know why you are upset,I think. Not because you win or loose, but because so many things dont make sense. It is hard to create a very realistic GE, most likely impossible. I like this game nevertheless, because in general the best team with the best tactic wins. I would like to give you one advice I received from another BB coach, try not to understand the GE as you think and most likely should work. But try to understand how the GE does work, try to understand the playing patrons it follows and use them to your advantage.

I have said many seasons ago that inside teams are favoured and now I have good bigs with nearly no outside skills, I even believe this more. My bigs have a higher % 3 pointers than my guards. I dont believe this is a coincidence, but something we should stop trying to understand and something we have to accept...

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119498.21 in reply to 119498.20
Date: 11/23/2009 5:26:31 AM
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they make that much sense like in real life, only with the difference that the average is smaller ;)

Weaker shooter normally, take the wide open looks and less of them so they become much easier to 100% in a game - but even they shoot more often zero.

The things who get mentioned, get mentioned because they play a role.

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119498.22 in reply to 119498.20
Date: 11/23/2009 5:33:04 AM
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In real life every player have there shooting slumps. Why not on this game too?

From: rcvaz

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119498.23 in reply to 119498.20
Date: 11/23/2009 6:05:32 AM
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I can see what you mean, but the occasional slump is to be expected. Your bigs may knock one down now and again, so do mine. My PF with average JS and pitiful JR has had 2-2 3fg games. Like other people said, they often get open looks.

I've taken a look at your team stats and all your SG's have pretty decent 3pt %. In fact Ortiz has a very good %. So you can't expect them to deliver every night, even when they're playing opponents with low OD. In the end we just have to look at statistics :P

From: Astragoth

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119498.24 in reply to 119498.23
Date: 11/23/2009 6:23:25 AM
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did you also look at the shooting % for my non guards??

Ortiz is a great PG and as far as I have been told and see there are not many good PG out there so he doesnt have much competition...

My center malsch shoots 11 - 22 50%

My backup backup player Lants shoots 9-21 43%

Ortiz shoots 39 - 93 42% indeed i would be happy with that.

Than my 2 really good JS and JR guys

Tavares shoots 32% and Guardia shoots 22%. Knowing that most teams in my league are inside focused teams and have poor to close none excistent OD. I would say that is kind off low.

The funny thing is that Guardia has the highest combo JS and JR in my team...

I am sure people will have 10000s of reasons to explain that. But Malsch has more or less no JS and JR skills, neither does Lantz and they shoot 28% and 21% better percentages.

Like the other guy mentioned, that doesnt make any sense to me. But I was just trying to help the other guy. I have stopped trying to make sense off such numbers. As long as the best team wins, I am happy...

Last edited by Astragoth at 11/23/2009 6:25:25 AM

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119498.25 in reply to 119498.24
Date: 11/23/2009 6:28:12 AM
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wait till your center have shoot a big enough sample and you see them weaker ;) Short sample big variance like ever.

From: rcvaz

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119498.26 in reply to 119498.25
Date: 11/23/2009 10:03:04 AM
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He's right. Your center has taken 20 shots whereas your guards have taken 90. It's like your center attempts one 3 pointer every game and scores one every two games. The other guys shoot more than 4 per game

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119498.28 in reply to 119498.10
Date: 11/24/2009 5:53:13 PM
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Can you point us to the game in question?

I personally think you are oversimplifying the Pitiful(High) Perimeter Defense from the post-game scouting report.

What style of offense?
What defense did you face?

It could be that the player in question took a lot of contested shots if he's the best shooter on the team and while the team defense of your opponent was rated as Pitiful(High) in Perimeter Defense, maybe they focused solely on stopping that one player leaving the rest of your players to take more open shots.

That scouting report is just a blanket statement. There is no visual evidence of how well they played unless you actually go back and watch the game to verify what you are seeing.

If said player in question is taking a lot of uncontested shots, he could have just had a really bad night. My star player has those nights more than I'd like but I prefer to think he's suffering from the "Ben Gordon-syndrome".

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