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152188.18 in reply to 152188.16
Date: 7/20/2010 11:44:14 AM
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How is it not similar to seeding? It lets top teams advance to a certain stage so they begin there rather than at the beginning. The purpose would be similar to the purpose behind seeding.

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152188.19 in reply to 152188.17
Date: 7/20/2010 11:47:13 AM
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While the best team might win the cup. The second best team often won't be in the final. And the third and fourth best teams won't be in the semi final. I just don't think it is fair that you can get a really easy run through the cup for 3 or 4 rounds by playing bots and inactive human teams and consequently boost your country ranking and receive an easy 50k a week when much better teams might go out in the first round because they draw the best team in the country.

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152188.20 in reply to 152188.19
Date: 7/20/2010 11:52:25 AM
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That may be true, but that wouldn't necessarily change with seeding. Look at this year's NCAA tournament - only one number 1 seed made it to the final weekend. Kansas didn't make it to the Sweet Sixteen. Kentucky and Syracuse went down soon after that. The Final Four was 1 vs. 2 and 5 vs. 5, with the title game as 1 vs. 5.

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152188.21 in reply to 152188.20
Date: 7/20/2010 11:57:09 AM
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Yes, but it would certainly increase the chance of better teams making it further. It would also encourage teams to do well in their league and not tank games because as you get a higher ranking you will play an easier team in the cup.

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152188.22 in reply to 152188.21
Date: 7/20/2010 2:51:52 PM
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I think you can make arguments for both a seeded and a random draw in the tournament. Because you prefer the seeded version, doesn't make the random version less fair. In fact, some might argue that its more fair...everybody has the same chance of facing the top teams (everybody is treated equally).


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152188.23 in reply to 152188.22
Date: 7/21/2010 3:24:29 PM
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I'd prefer if the cup was seeded, but I think the weaker team should be granted HCA.

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152188.24 in reply to 152188.23
Date: 7/21/2010 7:50:58 PM
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Fair or not fair - cup matches are played by teams with varying enthusiasm - should we therefore set a fixed enthusiasm level for all teams to play their cup matches? if you go down this road, you'll end up convincing yourself we don't need enthusiasm in the game altogether - and this way the outcomes will be academic subject to injury.

The best team hasn't the right to win the Cup (or league for that matter). The game has different managerial options specifically to ensure teams within a certain quality of one another can compete on a given day.

If you want to take luck out of BB then do it via the draft - thats as much if not more of a lottery.

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152188.25 in reply to 152188.24
Date: 7/24/2010 3:21:54 AM
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I love the fact that there are two types of competition in BuzzerBeater. One is focused more on long-term planning (league), the other has a strong factor of surprise and the unexpected and has its focus on the short term (Cup). Remove the difference and having two separate competitions doesn't make that much sense anymore in my opinion.

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152188.27 in reply to 152188.26
Date: 7/26/2010 1:10:26 PM
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The only improvement that needs to be done in the cup draw,is a system to avoid the BOT vs BOT games,that I think would be easy to insert for the BBs

It's just ridicoulous that a BOT team could arrive till the fifth round of the cup,maybe playing only against bot teams

Look at the path of these two teams that will face in the fourth round of the italian cup this season...

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/153765/schedule.aspx

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/156028/schedule.aspx

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152188.28 in reply to 152188.1
Date: 7/26/2010 11:48:33 PM
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I think cup should remain random. It gives those lower league teams a chance for the title (even if it is a small one).

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