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194285.18 in reply to 194285.17
Date: 8/16/2011 4:55:18 PM
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Agreed, and it's not like the two main candidates were the same as the rest of the NT managers we've had. One of them already had experience with managing a national team, when we had not had a manager with that kind of experience before, and the other didn't participate in helping with the US national team before, so he would bring a different prospective in to managing it. A lot of the candidates in lower divisions claim that they would bring change to the national team, but the top two candidates certainly would bring it too.

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194285.19 in reply to 194285.8
Date: 8/16/2011 5:53:38 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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He did promote the last two years though, so he is doing something right


He is doing something right indeed and I don't want to be taking anything away from him but promoting out of D5 and D4 in consecutive seasons is not as impressive as staying alive in the higher leagues. .


For the record, my promotions were out of IV and III :-)

I think the issue that is not being articulated is that, its not about whether a guy is in a upper division or not (Me getting elected proves that) its a matter of what a guy brings to the table.

A D5 or DIV coach absolutely can win an election to be NT coach if he demonstrates an understanding and ability to do the job. But to campaign on "Ohhh, why do we always just vote for higher division coaches, give us a chance too" doesn't carry any weight. Few really care what division you are in, if you can demonstrate that you truly care about the position, understand the game, and have the ability to do what is required. But to want to win on the basis its not fair lower division coaches don't get a fair chance, will never earn you enough votes.

If you truly want to be considered in future elections, you need to develop a real strategy of what you would do as coach, and why you would do a good job, and then spend the next 2 seasons involved in your NT program being active, demonstrating to the others your passion, and understanding for what is required. Then when you run, the people involved and voting won't care what division you are in.

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194285.20 in reply to 194285.19
Date: 8/16/2011 6:05:02 PM
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If all people cared about or mostly cared about experience then why dont we elect someone in the NBBA? im not saying anything against you jason im just saying what usually happens.

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194285.22 in reply to 194285.21
Date: 8/16/2011 6:17:08 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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I think your particular example of getting elected is a rare case, it is very, very slim chance of a guy never being in at least a II league ever,.


I hear what you are saying...but I don't want lower division owners to be discouraged. I think if they really want to run, they should, and they should believe they can win..but they need substance to their campaign was my point.

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194285.23 in reply to 194285.22
Date: 8/16/2011 10:34:44 PM
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I won my first U21 election right after promoting to D2 and won the second U21 election as a D3 team. Higher division people ran against me both times.


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194285.25 in reply to 194285.24
Date: 8/16/2011 11:02:54 PM
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Nope. No GM tag.

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194285.26 in reply to 194285.23
Date: 8/17/2011 2:53:23 AM
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I won my first U21 election right after promoting to D2 and won the second U21 election as a D3 team. Higher division people ran against me both times.



i believe we had a similiar case in germany too, and i believe in the election menu you don't see the leagues of the candidates.

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194285.27 in reply to 194285.26
Date: 8/18/2011 10:40:50 AM
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Nope. But if you don't even know their league, you probably shouldn't be voting yet. lol

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194285.28 in reply to 194285.27
Date: 8/18/2011 11:08:14 AM
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or you vote the dudes you know from the forum, i doubt that all german div 1 teams are known, especially the quite one in the forums. And in this case you maybe even look the discussion thread or judge about the quality of their post instead of their league.

Or you vote totally randomly.

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