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253111.18 in reply to 253111.17
Date: 1/2/2014 7:01:58 AM
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Iam not a doomsdayer:) I love training players since I started this game in season 17,and for the first time my own draftplayer has reached U21,and that''s great!But still I voted NO because I think that everyone should play this game like he/she want,if a manager has the money to buy himself a winning team,why you have to punisch them with a tax.But hey,,, thats just my thought

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253111.19 in reply to 253111.18
Date: 1/2/2014 7:14:45 AM
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Iam not a doomsdayer:) I love training players since I started this game in season 17,and for the first time my own draftplayer has reached U21,and that''s great!But still I voted NO because I think that everyone should play this game like he/she want,if a manager has the money to buy himself a winning team,why you have to punisch them with a tax.But hey,,, thats just my thought B)



Congrats on getting one of your own drafted trainees to your Countrys U21s team

Great work

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253111.20 in reply to 253111.13
Date: 1/2/2014 8:21:20 AM
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Well when I first heard about this tax, I freaked out to be honest. I did not understand it's purpose, and I don't understand fully not even know. However, I can say this. My view is that it will not change much, nonetheless it is one small step towards making this game better.

This tax solve some problems a lot of you guys are not even aware of. In bigger countries you had to lose money in order to win the championship. Now the tax gives you the incentive to train more and overspend less. Champinoship runs have turned into who can spend more, preceded by season or two of saving, making it basically a mini B3.

Look at my league. Maybe I'm an exception because I was tanking last season, but I'm not the only one with 600k+ roster - there are two others with such huge salaries for D.II. One of them is not training much, so his training exemption is probably very small and he has to pay overextension tax. When he figures out he bought too many salaries at once, he will probably sell some of those players in order to avoid losing money.

So you can afford to spend a lot in order to win championship only if your training exemption is big enough. Which means making your team better only with transfer list help isn't an option anymore. Remember we voiced our displeasure several times about how a well-trained player at 26 years costs the same as a 18y old draftee? Well that won't be the case anymore. Less teams will be able to afford those 26y olds and will rather spend a bit more time training, which will balance things out a bit.

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253111.21 in reply to 253111.20
Date: 1/2/2014 9:48:25 AM
Ghost Masters
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You see I for example overspend this season a bit, but it's not because I want to win league desperately, I actually wanted to play all kinds of different tactics, because I thought it would be useful with introduction of GDP and all, but know with introduction of this tax I am thinking more about coming back to buying PG with JS lvl 4 and OD lvl 20 with 30K salary and play LI in every game and save money instead of be in the minus and play all kind of tactics.

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253111.22 in reply to 253111.21
Date: 1/2/2014 9:53:49 AM
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I'm sorry to say this, but I guess you are a bit of collateral damage. I don't think there are more than 0.1% of people like you who like to overspend in order to play different tactics. Why don't you buy 22-23y old players who don't have such big salary, spend one or two seasons of training them to tailor your needs and then strart exploring new tactics?

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253111.23 in reply to 253111.22
Date: 1/2/2014 10:31:22 AM
Ghost Masters
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Yeah maybe my team a lit bit extravagant, but I think that with introduction of GDP a lot of teams that played LI will realize that way need to add more JS to their roster and this means increase in salaries.

I am done with training, I once waited for one pop 7 weeks with lvl 6 trainer and said to myself - no more :)

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253111.24 in reply to 253111.23
Date: 1/2/2014 3:01:18 PM
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Generally speaking, it's not a bad thing. In a way, it will help to stop LI domination and make more use of other tactics. I vote +

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253111.25 in reply to 253111.23
Date: 1/3/2014 12:21:51 AM
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Yeah maybe my team a lit bit extravagant, but I think that with introduction of GDP a lot of teams that played LI will realize that way need to add more JS to their roster and this means increase in salaries.

I am done with training, I once waited for one pop 7 weeks with lvl 6 trainer and said to myself - no mor



Either the player had soft capped or you were not giving him the correct training minutes for the type of training you'd selected

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253111.26 in reply to 253111.25
Date: 1/3/2014 1:11:31 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
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Either the player had soft capped or you were not giving him the correct training minutes for the type of training you'd selected

thats not always true.i had a SF trainee for a couple of seasons.and despite giving him proper minutes at the required position with a level 6 trainer in a single position training,he gave me 2 pops in ID in 9 weeks and 2 pops in JS in 7 or 8 weeks.i too was fed up from the slow speed of his training so I eventually decided to sell him.

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253111.27 in reply to 253111.26
Date: 1/3/2014 1:17:06 AM
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thats not always true.i had a SF trainee for a couple of seasons.and despite giving him proper minutes at the required position with a level 6 trainer in a single position training,he gave me 2 pops in ID in 9 weeks and 2 pops in JS in 7 or 8 weeks.i too was fed up from the slow speed of his training so I eventually decided to sell him.



One pop every 4 or 5 weeks for single position training is plausible depending on the players height and age and also the position to be trained.

I have a SF who is only 23 and I know that Im going to be lucky to get 3 ID pops for him for the whole season.

But if I didnt think it was worth it, Id train him in something else instead

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253111.28 in reply to 253111.27
Date: 1/3/2014 2:24:24 AM
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had my trainee been 23,i would not have had any problems with 1 pop every 4 weeks but he was 19 when I gave him ID training..i think that 2 pops in 9 weeks would be considered slow for any 19 year old.dont you think?

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