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From: Ragans

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Date: 4/21/2008 3:21:50 PM
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Anyway I will take the risk and play Normal...otherwise there was no sense to build up the Entusiasm before the PO, I have played Normal already vs CT in away court and I won, I was playing all the time TIE against normal, away or at home and I won....I think there is no problem of playing Normal....
Remember there will allways be losers and someone who will always blame about something....and I believe that this game is not just about TIE/N/CT.....!!!

Plus I will have home team advantage in all games except 2nd final game...

Last edited by Ragans at 4/21/2008 3:22:44 PM

From: Emilio

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I agree with most of the things you say. Good teams should not have problems.
But some managers with slightly better team will have problems.
In your case, I don´t know your team or your opponent's team, but I see that you have win by 10 points at his field with the same attitude (PIC-PIC or N-N).
Now you play at home, but he can play CT. This way you will get a close match.
You have a slight advantage but not so big. Enthusiasm should be similar.

I don´t like this, but with the new engine, 1-match playoffs are mostly related to the CT-N decision. Next season they will change it.

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
From: Ragans

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I cant find right now but BB-Charles posted somewhere some few days ago what happen in different variations(porobability to win or lose) If you play at home or away and options which both teams take TIE/N/CT, I am not sure but as I remember from his post that If I play at home ant choose normal and my opponent CT and plays away...it is aprox 50:50

From: Emilio

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I have also read it.
Teams playing TIE are tipically like your team: A good team who plays against not so good teams, so they can win even TIE vs. Normal. So the stadistics are too optimistics...
Anyway, even with this, don´t you think that 50:50 is too risky for a quarter of final playoff? Only one match... It is like throwing a coin!

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
From: Ragans

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Date: 4/21/2008 4:21:16 PM
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well but 50:50 that was only for CT/N and home and away option....there is still few factors:
1. Your tactics choice VS opponents tactics choice
2 Your enthusiasm VS Opponents Enthusiasm
3 Your players skills VS Opponents player skills
4 Random factor :)

Anyway If you think about finals and promotion, I think it is suicide to CT, because for example if you have E=9, after CT you will have E=5-6, and what you will gona do in next game? again CT? then your E will be aprox 3, and what to do in finals then?

From: Ragans

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Date: 4/21/2008 4:31:03 PM
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Finally found:

From BB-Charles:

By the way, here are some aggregate statistics, so that we can look at TiE/CT effects as a whole instead of individual examples. These are obviously not randomly-selected games, since teams attempt to choose TiE/CT for tactical reasons.

When both teams play TiE, the home team has a record of 417-277.
When the home team plays TiE against normal, it has a record of 829-826.
When the home team plays TiE against CT, it has a record of 104-200.
When the home team plays normal against TiE, it has a record of 1262-483.
When the home team plays normal against CT, it has a record of 703-759.
When the home team plays CT against TiE, it has a record of 265-38.
When the home team plays CT against normal, it has a record of 1171-357.
When the home team plays CT against CT, it has 205-107.

I did not include normal vs. normal, since those will be mostly bot games, but globally the home team edge is at around 63%.

From: Zloooo

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Date: 4/21/2008 4:34:59 PM
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Ok I read this post most carefully.
NOw I am firs with 21-1 (only lost a game I TIE with enthusiasm of 2 after a cup final)
I am first and i play a guy that is defenetly going to CT me.
He as I can see has ET 5, I have 9,
I have beaten him twice
1. Home court with 20 point then away with 32 points.
Since then the only changes in a team is that he bought a center with 6400wage, and I have bought a center with 9700wage.

And buy this you all say I shoud CT him too. That is funny, even my reserves could beat him, ????
Is it even possibile for him to beat me, ???
I played agains the 2nd best team in my legue and beat him with more then 20 points and I TIE with 7 enthusiasm and he played normal with 5.

Really dont know what to do anymore:((

From: Ragans

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Date: 4/21/2008 4:40:58 PM
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My opinion is that you must not CT definately....anyway CT before finals it is silly....if you are in first place and have home court advantage....I will definately play Normal....I dont see even other options....:D Someone just raised the question that need to CT in first game and I wanted to show some arguments that it is not necesary...unless your goal is just to get one more game....:D

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