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305530.18 in reply to 305530.7
Date: 7/24/2020 5:48:51 PM
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Those players i can train on 3 things (inside defence, jump shot & inside shot) because it's the 3 main attribute of all those players, so i could keep them for a good period of time! So training those 5 players for the short term future.
JS, DR and RB are the only skills that naturally are 2-positional for training purposes. For training regimes that are 1-positional, if you use the 2-position option the training will be around 2/3 of the full amount (so significantly slower). Since 5*2/3=10/9, you can get slightly more overall training, but in reality you'll be hooked up for longer and it's likely the players are not gonna be worth a lot on the transfer market because they will not compare favourably with other players of the same age.

As other have said: train 3 players after you are done with the 2 position training (namely 1 on 1 and JS if you go that way after 1 on 1). The main advantage of having 5 (or 6) is that you can pick the better ones.

Those players i can train on 3 things (inside defence, jump shot & inside shot) because it's the 3 main attribute of all those players, so i could keep them for a good period of time! So training those 5 players for the short term future.
Look, you just need bodies to beat bots. So unless you want to promote and need to beat some human managers, you may safely keep your starting players or build a team of 2-3k salary players.


If you are set on these trainees, then I would suggest to train them for 2/3 seasons and aim to make them some solid backups for higher leagues. It's probably a good idea to have a first go as a rehearsal.

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305530.21 in reply to 305530.19
Date: 7/24/2020 7:34:29 PM
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Are you bragging because of your luck in finding a 5/5 18yo with the group demo and 3 interviews? Or because you have trained a player who sold for 6.7m, despite he's not good enough for the NT and the fact you paid over 9 million in training?

If you actually draft, then it should be for a player that can make the NT. Considering how many drafts have no HoF (like literally zero HoF and ATG), the rational thing to do is...not to scout and use the money to buy off the TL. The draft is go big or go home. Making money from it is just like hoping to beat the house in a casino. Sure a small minority walks with more money than they had when they walked in, most do not and as a whole we definitely do not (unless we all just draft randomly). However, getting a starting player for the NT has its merits and it's worth it for different reasons.



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305530.22 in reply to 305530.18
Date: 7/25/2020 3:57:32 AM
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JS, DR and RB are the only skills that naturally are 2-positional for training purposes. For training regimes that are 1-positional, if you use the 2-position option the training will be around 2/3 of the full amount (so significantly slower). Since 5*2/3=10/9, you can get slightly more overall training, but in reality you'll be hooked up for longer and it's likely the players are not gonna be worth a lot on the transfer market because they will not compare favourably with other players of the same age.

okay okay think now i understand! So people start with 5 - 6 trainees to train the 2 position trainings, so they have 100% training on those, and then continue whith the players they want while selling the others. I could buy 5 players of the same position then & put them on the field for 100% training ? And continue after a season or 2 (or when i'm done for the 2 position training) with the 3 best ones?

btw one more question: For example let's say i buy a trainee that says that he's center, but his stats are way more like a small forward (just saying a random position) and i train the stats of a small forward, will his best position change overtime? Or will it remain center? Does the position that is said he plays matter? or not?

Thanks this is VERY helpfull btw! i didn't know that!! Super info this one!

Last edited by Furyian at 7/25/2020 5:17:00 AM

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Date: 7/25/2020 6:16:09 AM
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okay okay think now i understand! So people start with 5 - 6 trainees to train the 2 position trainings, so they have 100% training on those, and then continue whith the players they want while selling the others. I could buy 5 players of the same position then & put them on the field for 100% training ? And continue after a season or 2 (or when i'm done for the 2 position training) with the 3 best ones?
Correct. Training 5 (or 6) and keeping 3 when you are moving to 1 position training is a cost saving measure, under the assumption that you do in fact make some money from selling the extra trainees (and this usually depends on whether you got a good deal when you bought them in the first place).

Most people in full human leagues realise it's hard to compete while training and this is true for higher leagues when you have young trainees. So since you will not challenge to promote when you have 18 and 19yo players you may as well get as many as you can so that the profit you make on 2 or 3 of them will at least cover the cost of the trainer (who's gonna cost in the region of 200k/season for an advanced trainer and 900k/season for exceptional)

btw one more question: For example let's say i buy a trainee that says that he's center, but his stats are way more like a small forward (just saying a random position) and i train the stats of a small forward, will his best position change overtime? Or will it remain center? Does the position that is said he plays matter? or not?
Only the skills a player has matter. The position he is listed at is irrelevant, it's simply calculated based on his skills. Height is also irrelevant to this, height only determines the speed of the training. So tall players train inside skills faster and short players train guard skills faster (there are some exceptions, some training regimes are similar at all heights like PA and crucially 1 on 1), but the actual skillset determines the position they are listed at.

Example: this guy (41103215) is listed as a C, but he's 6'5'' and he can only play one of the big man slots effectively due to his skills. Clearly he's been trained in inside skills for all his life even though that was very inefficient and could have had a lot more skills if he had been trained differently.

In short: height determine how fast different skills will train, the skills determine the listed position, but that only gives you a general idea of what position the player can play well. How he actually performs at a given position depends on his skills, the tactics you choose and on who's playing alongside him.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 7/28/2020 1:30:28 PM