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From: Rockets

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323607.18 in reply to 323607.17
Date: 5/31/2024 10:23:21 AM
Rigol Rockets
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Like in all seriousness, are you just trolling now?

Your definition of spam is a little off. Saying "Hey I'm NT boss and I'm here to help if you need it" is not spam. Telling them you'll sell them X, Y and Z from your parents basement would be. We are here to play a basketball game that involves developing players to their best abilities. Players only get into NT squad if you pick them... Developing players and having a player in an NT squad does benefit teams.

Telling someone you need to do X, Y, and Z without them asking for it is very pushy indeed, which is why you introduce yourself, and let interested people come to you. In that situation you are NT manager after all and, again, players only get into NT squad if you pick them, why not make yourself available to people in a professional manner? Did you make a press release saying contact me if you need help if you don't want to email people?

The managers who had fringe candidates were advised how their players could make the team if that was something they were interested in.


So how did these people know they had players on the fringes? Did you proactively email them? Which you claimed not to do yesterday.

And nobody said you force people to train players a certain way. You are there for advice not to beat them with a stick.

Also, the reason I took the job was to try to win games. That's the disconnect here. My motivation was different from yours, but I already explained that.


Then why take an U21 NT job for a small country? To win with a small manager base requires a lot of organization and work. You not going to win a whole lot of games without communication and organization.

I simply do not agree that it's 99.999 percent of the job and match outcomes don't matter. I understand where you're coming from, but I couldn't disagree with it more vehemently with this job. I think saying that also discredits all the work that was done by my more proactive predecessor, even if you hedged enough to give him a little credit for his success.


For a small country development is key. In order to do this widely in eligible players you need to communicate with managers. Doing all that and winning games is really, really impressive if you ask me and hats off to those that achieve it. There are many examples in this game of small nations doing really well through organization and communication and well done to them for their hard work.

Prefacing a distortion of facts with "in all fairness" and then projecting your own experience onto everyone else is a move. Your guys weren't on the fringe, they were roster locks. I didn't think you needed my help. You seemed to have things under control. You clearly aren't all that interested in hearing my thoughts right now, in all fairness.


I never suggested they weren't roster locks. But my point is if you don't check in with people who have players in your NT squad, then how the hell do we know you actually checked in with anybody? We do not, and we can infer things from it and the fact you have made no press release, forum posts....

I reject the notion that messaging every domestic manager individually would have bore fruit in the manner you're suggesting.


It would have at least let people know you are approachable and open to helping people. If it helps one person its worth it. Again, for a small nation, helping and retaining 1 manager in game can be key in getting 2 more players into the NT in the future.


From: KPD23

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323607.19 in reply to 323607.18
Date: 5/31/2024 11:40:07 AM
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Second Team:
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I'm sorry I didn't say hi to you.

From: cahill
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323607.20 in reply to 323607.11
Date: 6/24/2024 6:14:12 AM
Torc Colossus
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Hi All - just saw this forum. I'll be going for the U21 position again at the end of this season unless there is someone who really wants a go at a few seasons of it. The above is actions I used to do with the team when I had them previously and really liked it. I had them from seasons 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61.

It is about educating coaches on training and building players for the future, and just making the best of what we have.

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Date: 6/24/2024 6:43:14 AM
Dublin Dragons
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Good luck in elections!

From: xrono

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323607.22 in reply to 323607.20
Date: 6/27/2024 9:36:36 AM
Atletico Calcinaia
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Good luck!
I hope that the under 21 can finally grow...I only saw 9 players called up....

From: Rockets

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Date: 6/27/2024 10:01:32 AM
Rigol Rockets
Super League
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Good luck. Hope you win the election.

From: cahill
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323607.24 in reply to 323607.22
Date: 6/28/2024 4:34:39 AM
Torc Colossus
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Yeah coach isn't responding to any messages either - unfortunately this can happen, it's occurred a few times before.

From: xrono

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323607.25 in reply to 323607.11
Date: 8/10/2024 4:28:17 PM
Atletico Calcinaia
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Hi!
When the new coach U21 will be elected?
Poor U21 team...

From: Rockets

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Date: 8/12/2024 1:54:33 PM
Rigol Rockets
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In the offseason at the end of this season. Hope your season is going well.

From: xrono

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Date: 9/4/2024 5:21:37 AM
Atletico Calcinaia
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so...Who will run for U21 coach?

From: Rockets

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323607.28 in reply to 323607.27
Date: 9/4/2024 4:49:11 PM
Rigol Rockets
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Hi xrono, I hope you are keeping well.

I believe the manager of Torc Colosus, currently in DII.1 has indicated he is interested running for the post on the Irish discord. He has experience of managing the Ireland U21 team in the past and did quite well. We wont see who else is running for a little while yet.

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