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56824.18 in reply to 56824.17
Date: 12/5/2008 1:26:57 PM
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i admit i deliberately ignore 3-roles and team training regimes, because i'd like to train my players and actually see them pop

Right. Well, while I am probably too radical in my defense of the status-quo, the thing that we've all heard from the horse's mouth is that SF training is supposed to be reasonably challenging.

So I wouldn't hold my breath for the implementation of the training regime that is the exact arithmetic sum of the efficiencies of OD training for guards and the ID training for big men.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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56824.19 in reply to 56824.16
Date: 12/5/2008 1:37:51 PM
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about 2, but both defenses you need when can't guarantee that your opponent plays with a specific monoskill sf.

And you can not argue, that a 7 in one OD skill was everytime enough.

From: ZyZla

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56824.20 in reply to 56824.9
Date: 12/5/2008 8:49:59 PM
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I agree. My suggestion would be "Swingman Defense".

Training options would be:
SF, SG/SF, SF/PF, or SG/SF/PF

It would train:
Outside Defense 0.5x primary skill rate
Inside Defense 0.5x primary skill rate
Inside Shot: secondary skill rate
Jump Shot: secondary skill rate
Rebounding: secondary skill rate

So, guessing at the "normal" training speeds, it could look something like this:
SF
OD: 3-4weeks
ID: 3-4 weeks
IS: 8 weeks
JS: 8 weeks
RB: 8 weeks

SG/SF or SF/PF
OD: 5-6 weeks
ID: 5-6 weeks
IS: 10 weeks
JS: 10 weeks
RB: 10 weeks

SG/SF/PF
OD: 7-8 weeks
ID: 7-8 weeks
IS: 12 weeks
JS: 12 weeks
RB: 12 weeks


I really like your idea, I even think many users would like to see this one on the next season.

I, by my self, have this problem, cause I wanna train just two positions (one of them SF), but it`s just impossible.

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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56824.21 in reply to 56824.16
Date: 12/6/2008 4:22:02 AM
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4. I can't quite understand your point of view: first, it's about playing out of position, then, it's not about playing out of position, but it's about training speed.


aren't they the same thing? you have to play the SF out of position to get the quickest training speeds with the current training system...

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56824.22 in reply to 56824.17
Date: 12/7/2008 5:20:30 AM
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i admit i deliberately ignore 3-roles and team training regimes, because i'd like to train my players and actually see them pop


I know it's just one week's training and therefore not exactly scientific or anything, but I trained 3-position pressure this week and got 5 pops in OD. Including on my starting Center who managed to play a few minutes out of position (in SF role, naturally) in my cup game. What's not to like?

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56824.23 in reply to 56824.22
Date: 12/7/2008 7:07:47 AM
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tell me when your C will have his netx pop keeping with this training regime, so we can make a more accurate analysis

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56824.24 in reply to 56824.23
Date: 12/9/2008 1:54:29 PM
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Sorry, but I'm unlikely to be able to train him consistently since that requires him to be played out of position. But I'll do what I can...