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From: paulo09_ca

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Date: 4/7/2009 11:07:28 PM
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a little off topic of this thread, but in response to the foul trait. my best SG Ancieta used to have very high foul to minute ratios, 4.2 fouls per game with 26 minutes per game in season 6, but looking at him this season after some outside defense training during this season and last, he is down to 2.9 per game in 27 minutes per game, and has only fouled out of 1 game this season.

the defensive training will help.

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From: jbmcrock

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It's still too early to say whether he has the fouling trait. Like paulo09_ca said, a bit more defense will help reduce it (although Ansieta still looks like a bit of a fouler). Also as I have found with my rookies, since they are the worst defenders on the floor, the opposition player they are guarding usually shoots the majority of shots - thus there are more opportunities to foul. In any case, that was my motivation to work on od first (reduce fouling) - and it also builds up inside d a bit as well (I need to remember to write in the bugs forum or send mail to the bb's that the secondaries must be broken for od training).

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the defensive training will help.


I personally think the experience differential between the players is the most important factor but I could be wrong.

On a side note, I find an effective strategy with Wendon is to play look inside with him and play him at PF. He often gets the opposing PF to foul out, even guys with prominent+ inside d. I just need to find a complementary C to go with him and this strategy could be killer.

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Date: 4/9/2009 1:38:37 PM
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Chalk up another one for Essa.

Essa Abu-Kaleel (Last 2 games)
- 17 minutes played/6 fouls
- 42 minutes played/6 fouls (Scrimmage)

I'm sure the improved defense will help him eventually but it looks like he's got that foul trait no matter what. I've never had an 18 year old foul this much and plenty were a lot worse defensively than Essa.


My suggestion is to slow the game down as much as possible, particularily if it is a scrimmage and you don't need to win it. Play patient or low post and try to get your opponent to do the same. Explain to him that it is for training purposes.

Most fouls are on shots so the fewer shots that are taken by your opponent, the less fouls you should take.

Also, take note of it for future NT use. If you have an idea of who has the "physicality" trait, you can use it on your opponents in the future.

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Good call on slowing down the game in scrimmages (or other games when you want the player to stay out of foul trouble). Here is the training update:

Week 1 - pg pressure: Braier (48 minutes) to respectable od, Fritzer (29 minutes)
Week 2 - pg pressure: Braier (46 minutes), Fritzer (48 minutes) to mediocre od
Week 3 - pg pressure: Braier (46 minutes) to strong od, Fritzer (48 minutes), Thomas (46 minutes)
Week 4 - pg pressure: Braier (33 minutes), Fritzer (48 minutes) to average od, Thomas (48 minutes) to average od and respectable handling
Week 5 - pg pressure: Braier (48 minutes), Fritzer (48 minutes), Thomas (47.4 minutes) to respectable od
Week 6 - pg pressure: Braier (47 minutes) to proficient od, Fritzer (48 minutes) to respectable od, Thomas (48 minutes)
Week 7 - pg pressure: Braier (48 minutes) to strong driving, Fritzer (48 minutes), Thomas (48 minutes) to strong od

First time all three got 48 minutes, and I have the first driving improvement. Was hoping to see consecutive week improvements on od from Fritzer, but I imagine his height will prevent that.

From: harfang

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Date: 4/10/2009 5:28:41 PM
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Hey,

if he's gonna hijack the thread with his HoF trainee, might as well do the same with mine!


Ed Matthews
Week 1 - Outside Defense (PG/SG), 32 minutes, nothing (forgot to set to Strictly follow depth chart)
Week 2 - Outside Defense (PG), 41 minutes, nothing (foul out)
Week 3 - Outside Defense (PG), 48 minutes, OD to proficient
Week 4 - Outside Defense (PG), 48 minutes, Handling to awful

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Date: 4/10/2009 6:23:29 PM
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Updated:

Ed Matthews
Week 1 - Outside Defense (PG), 37 minutes, OD to strong (foul out)
Week 2 - Outside Defense (PG/SG), 32 minutes, nothing (forgot to set to Strictly follow depth chart)
Week 3 - Outside Defense (PG), 41 minutes, nothing (foul out)
Week 4 - Outside Defense (PG), 48 minutes, OD to proficient
Week 5 - Outside Defense (PG), 48 minutes, Handling to awful

glad to see he isn't a fouler (which I thought possible after his first two games).

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Date: 4/10/2009 6:24:57 PM
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I'm guessing the proficient OD is helping settle him down a little bit.

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