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From: Jorz
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251069.181 in reply to 251069.180
Date: 12/12/2013 12:11:15 PM
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i have been playing this game since season 10,stoped in 15 and restarted in 24.I think the game is fine,theres no reason to fix something that is not broken.Adding a second team option would lead to cheating but other than that i find it pointless.You may disagree that the game is not broken,but i think the issue with the loss of users is the advertising,the game is fine but however good it is,is irelevant to its population.Of course many people log in just once or never,thats what i do on websites i have no idea about or something i thought would be cool at the moment,if there was a better way to welcome newcommers it would keep them here more.Its not like experienced users gave up the game because they thought it is broken.Ohh and also to whoever said that (teenagers) or anybody really wants a fast paced game is wrong,im 17 and im perfectly fine with the way the game proceeds,its not like the game is the priority of your life,having this site to log in once a day and spend a couple of minutes is enough and satisfying.

From: Jorz

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251069.183 in reply to 251069.182
Date: 12/12/2013 1:46:51 PM
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Well of course I don't know why you stopped in season 15 to only restart in S24, but admit that if you stop playing a game after 5 seasons/1 year (in Greece, not leading you far) and wait 9 seasons (two IRL years) to replay it seems to indicate you weren't finding enough interest to keep playing. Since that game is aiming for people to stay for a very long time to see the consecration with their team, your example would makes me think something has to be done to help keep players.

not at all,its the other way around,i gave up all my online gaming because it was affecting me in real life,and the fact that i came back to this game indicates that i liked it enough to remember about it.

So BB is far from broken, but changes here and there are mandatory as long as they are thought beforehand and not just made to appease a handful of people.


hence why i said having a second team serves no benefit and i believe only a couple of people want it.Me personally,i have no idea what it would offer.

From: Aleksandar

To: Jorz
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251069.185 in reply to 251069.183
Date: 12/12/2013 4:54:21 PM
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Second team has been implemented in similar games, and has been working well. As far as I know, that is. BB is my main game, I only recently started playing Trophy Manager. Does anyone else have more experience with those games? Was there any known problems with cheating?

Again, the main benefit of second team idea is financial. More supporters would give needed resources to BB, to improve.

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Date: 12/12/2013 5:12:16 PM
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I have a suggestion, not really for new users per say but it would make looking for a scrimmage a bit easier. How about when you are looking at another teams page you see the managers name the, the league they are in and if they are online. How about adding a date of last login? That way you don't have to go through the maze to view the last time they logged in?

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251069.188 in reply to 251069.11
Date: 12/12/2013 6:00:06 PM
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To me the fans are brutal making it hard to keep cash to improve and that needs to be fixed....In general I think the it should be easier to maintain a positive cash flow for teams that are active and not being silly with free agents. There are teams in my Div that have virutally no American players and they are making bank....what is that all about. I love the game, the game engine is second to none. It is why I am a paying member..but I admit it irks me to no end that I have fans that expect things that are just unrealistic and have a tizzy when i sell a bench riding player. I will go deep in debt while I wait nearly 3 weeks for a home game...the off season should be shorter of we should have opportunities to stop the hemmorging in money that that the guys who finsihed 6th and 7th have...It would have been better for me to finish 6th and get two home games that pay than too finish 4th, have a fan base that hates me and get put out in the first round by a team ranked 400 places ahead of me...is that what they want, everyone to tank? Tanking is already too rewarded...also this thing where teams can play with 3 or 4 players is silly, make them play with 5. I cant stand when I set a scrimmage and the other team shows up with 4 players...that is no fun to watch and I cant gauge my players and at no level in bball is it allowed.....Having said all this, I still love the game and hope they keep working to make it better....perhaps fixing those type things would be better than the silly guessing game we had during scrimmages where you guess what they will play and what pace...wth is that.

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251069.189 in reply to 251069.188
Date: 12/12/2013 6:18:47 PM
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One man has to say something to you about scrimmages:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM

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251069.190 in reply to 251069.187
Date: 12/12/2013 7:03:30 PM
Fab Five
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Second Team:
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People is paying for free-to-play games a lot of money. I usually play LoL and I just heard about Clash of Clans making 2,5 M a day or 100 dolars per user. I think Buzzerbeater is never going to be massive but the BB's should look for ways to give the players willing to spend money a way to do it. I am suporter because I spend a lot of time in this game, I can pay for it and I want this game to succeed, not because I could miss any features of suporter. For example, if people is willing to pay suporter to have a second team ¿why not?


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251069.191 in reply to 251069.188
Date: 12/12/2013 7:29:45 PM
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Tanking is already too rewarded..


I liked your post Pistol Pete.

There is a lot to like about this game and I think overall the owners of the game have done a good job.

Recent innovations such as bid history and achievements I believe have been good and show to me that the owners of the game have not abandoned it.

If I was to summarise the posts in this thread it would read;

Tanking is too rewarding (yes i tanked this season and made about 3 and a half mill), needs fixing
LI has been too dominant for too long, needs fixing
Apps need to be created to help promote the game
Supporters to be allowed to have a second team in another country (not sure that I agree)
More encouragement to get Managers to train players (so they get attached)
Quality control feedback system via Survey Monkey or the like
New Managers to start in lowest possible grade
An additional cup tournament that is run on a divisional level with possibility of regions of several smaller nations being created for this idea
More help for new Managers (some talk of increased mentoring)

Some have suggested and many have argued against

Speeding up the game and training (Im oppossed to this myself)

Additional ideas of mine

With regards to help for new Managers, what about a pop up message with a suggestion each time they log in?

If the owners of the game are short of time, money or enthusiam, why dont they float an expression of interest on the site for a current Manager playing the game, to buy a part ownership of the game.

Potential investors would have to be checked out in real life and it might be a criteria that they have programming skills.

Another idea of mine is to have annual awards for each country.

Could be done either via voting of Team Managers or via data on the system based on team performance

Categories could include;

Best new Managers (less than 4 seasons or one calender year)
Best long term Manager (been in game longer than 3 calender years)
Best trainee under 21 & under 24
Most active member





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