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I had a very interesting BB-mail overnight from a good old friend who slipped me this information....

Delta Cappuccio is raking in 1.5x the amount of cash of Kotets at the gates (AVG 351k vs. 238k over the first games over the season..)

So the slightly really is becoming more and more a SLIGHTLY!

Sure but take a league of 16 teams with an average 2500 STH (ie. Italy II) then take a league of 16 teams with an average STH of 1800 (Japan II).

Play these teams week in week out vs each other with same arena breakdowns and prices and I would bet that the Italian attendences work out to be slightly higher?

Slightly is a key word in this discussion.Because we could easily see the difference in the salaries and in Tv contract,and the relative weekly difference.Now,if this slightly difference,is small compared to the weekly difference we saw before(salaries-Tv contract),it means that however tanking is a much more easy tactic to play in Japan

you shouldn't forget that you play longer, to reach this level so have bigger arena and tv income in italy. And when it is the same in Nippon, they also played longer and fight harder to be competive so that they have more competive and more expensiv rosters like in italy.

but you are right a fresh start might be faster in a small country, bt if it is really funnier, because the opponents are much stronger and you have to catch up for a while before you could think about winning.

And what difference does it make, when team cx from a total different country cgot more money then team y, when they ain't competing against each other.

I had a very interesting BB-mail overnight from a good old friend who slipped me this information....

Delta Cappuccio is raking in 1.5x the amount of cash of Kotets at the gates (AVG 351k vs. 238k over the first games over the season..)

IMHO,Kotets is been hurting much more than Delta Cappuccio Team from the relegation because:

-DCT had a much better path in their National cup(SF against top 64) last season
-DCT was relegated after playout games,while Kotets was relegated directly
(higher fan survey on last season's team performance)

And the most important thing,Kotets has a too high price for the bleachers seats,so he don't fill them out,while DCT with a much lower price,has all the bleachers filled,so having a much better income

Probably there is a difference between a large and a small country,but in this situation it seems to me more a wrong price policy from Kotets than another thing

To my dismay I find that you've lately started to articulate all the ideas I'd like to have but couldn't articulate properly even if I had them ;-), so thanks. Only on the last point:

No-ones discussed a team that explodes yet as opposed to tanking. If a manager knows this is his last season in BB then how much do you think he needs to ensure a BB3 victory?

..I know the scenario exists but personally I don't understand the motive. If I knew I wouldn't be around to enjoy the eventual glory of my team, why should I try to win a title I don't care to hold any longer? So if I tried anyway, I would put in less effort than my rivals who want to continue, thereby reducing my chances to go all the way.

Perhaps a motive would be to try and win the most difficult competition one last time before moving on to a different, but an initially slightly easier set of competitive forces (which will serve to keep the game interesting).

And the most important thing,Kotets has a too high price for the bleachers seats,so he don't fill them out,while DCT with a much lower price,has all the bleachers filled,so having a much better income

i like it more when there are seats free, then when you have a sell out because you never know how much people would have come when you have unlimited seats(and no cap). If there are just a few people without a ticket, it may be economical better but it could become very fast a bad deal.

And the most important thing,Kotets has a too high price for the bleachers seats,so he don't fill them out,while DCT with a much lower price,has all the bleachers filled,so having a much better income

i like it more when there are seats free, then when you have a sell out because you never know how much people would have come when you have unlimited seats(and no cap). If there are just a few people without a ticket, it may be economical better but it could become very fast a bad deal.

5500 seats free on 13000 maybe are a little too much ;D

ok thats seems to be right :)

Straight from the elephant's mouth...ftw!

Well its clear you love Sociology but what you told its not exactly what is happening.

You havent been enough here to see what direction took and have taken this transfer market. What people complained is that we had a market with lot of inflation and in 1 season of difference now we are on a big deflation. This kind of changes where there is not a medium stage is not good for the game.

All people complaining its because some managers suffered this heavy changes, we went from one side to the other side and when this happens there is no space for long term planification. Why you have to do a planification for the next 2-3 seasons if you can benefit from having a transfer market uncontrolled? And same direction goes for the people who trained a player for 3 seasons and now can't sell it for a reasonable price.

- I've observated enough to say the FA use dindt work properly. If the FA are released it would hep to find a medium step where we dont go from one side to another. I dont know where's the perfect equilibrium, but for the moment we are far from it. I still see players being overvalued, the manager that have a great income will be always paying 4-5M or 10M for overvalued players, but during this process there will be lot of managers who will suffer more from deflation than inflation.


As a manager who always cared on the transfer list, i prefer inflation than deflation. The manager has more options to do in general and you can play different planifications. At the end the good manager that is selling their star will do it for 10M or for 5M since there always will be some crazy managers that have huge incomes.

When we were on inflation I dindt have problems to find the players i wanted, but when this turns to a deflation its really difficult to sell...



PD: In a country that there is a lot of competition, the most important thing is how you train. If you were able to train 3 players and sell 1-2 then you were able to advance, but now this is not possible for reasonable prices. Well at least on our country since there is lot of competition lot of teams ended using the transfer list as an income(like i did with +6-8M and many others). There's nothing bad to base your strategy using the market as an income, but now unfortunately this is not possible...

Last edited by Marot at 11/3/2010 11:23:02 PM