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129389.185 in reply to 129389.181
Date: 1/29/2010 4:23:34 PM
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3. ... where they will go to buy players with higher salaries.
at the risk of running in circles in this thread, at message 55 in here my own answer to this was lazy cartels that continue to run high savings rates and do NOT spend it all (except maybe on ridiculously expensive multiskillers with comparably low salaries): (129389.55)
to say something substantive about this would require a graph that plots average weekly profits in div 1's against number of users in the country.

Well, money doesn't win games, players do. Therefore running high savings is not necessarily a problem.

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Date: 1/29/2010 4:28:48 PM
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Advantage to smaller country teams?


Lets say we turn this around? As apparantly the majority of this thread want.

Advantage to bigger country teams?

Debate would be the same; just the opposite noises. Is there a good and fair system? At all? In real life?

Im still curious(and lot of managers are) to read what are the BB's opinion..

BB listened and tried to uneven the economics by TV contract and merchandise and free agents...I dont think you can prove that it is not working..Its just not that transparant.

And really not that big teams are there in small countries..What are we saying...Don't give me the links of Djembe; Dragons Back and Sharman and Torooo....Those are exceptional coaches which might have succeeded in every country..I do agree with some people that yes some are benifitting but I belive those can be counted less then 20 teams maybe..

Yes countries as Italy; Spain; France are tough. Like Gachai said; consider this as a blessing and fun. Because GM-somdetsfinest with its gazillion trophies in Thailand would love to have those kinda competition.



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129389.187 in reply to 129389.182
Date: 1/29/2010 4:30:49 PM
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I seem to be missing the issue here.

1. Small-county teams run huge profits because their players are too cheap as compared to their weekly income.

2. Therefore they have an advantage on the transfer market...

3. ... where they will go to buy players with higher salaries.

Rinse, repeat. Problem solved.


In this situation for the larger community, where there is competition, there is no hope of being able to compete in the B3 or in the market.
If I'm born in Ghana I would have some hope. Now I wonder if the principle of realism, that the game is pursuing, is observed.
But for us who were born in Spain - Italy - Germany to demostrate that we are good managers must ask permission to have a team in the league with a few users as Ghana or Barbados where winning is easy and raccimolare money is even more?
This path has already been traveled by a user ... honestly if you do not balance the things I think that nothingelse can be done!
I apologize if I am wordy but I think it was for the good of the game that this situation should be corrected otherwise we ALL lose!

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Date: 1/29/2010 5:22:35 PM
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have a team in the league with a few users as Ghana or Barbados where winning is easy and raccimolare money is even more?
...but how much fun is it to be the only team dominating a country without opposition. If you truly find pleasure in that it is just sad.

Most of us thirst for competition because the fun of beating a team is none if it is practically a walkover. But if you win after struggling with a rival for season after season and finally beats him it is sweet relief. And it doesn't end there. Your rival wants revenge, and you have to prepare to defend your honor at your next meeting, and all the trash talk and forum conversation around it spices up the BB experience to become a master chef worthy and a match worth to see. As many have said before, it does not matter how much money you have as long as you manage them better than your opposition (which mostly consist of equal teams in the same league with the same prerequisites as yourself). And don't underestimate the joy of having a lively community. It's what make the game fun. How many teams and how often does these teams get to play in B3 games? Hardly enough to make their team evolve around it.

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129389.190 in reply to 129389.177
Date: 1/29/2010 5:26:33 PM
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Which particular part of the problem do you expect to get fixed?

Teams with high income and crappy players will always be in better position to spend on the transfer market -- that's not anything that's going to change, so don't hold your breath.



really? didn't you write this about... 2 posts before?

Rinse, repeat. Problem solved.


i never held my breath, of course
there's a reason italians don't write in global as much as before, and it's answers like yours


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Date: 1/29/2010 5:32:15 PM
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i rarely try to buy players, because it's a really frustrating experience


I did not do the exact sum, but your salaries look to be in the $200+ neighbourhood. To me, that's at least in the "comfortable mid-sized sedan" category, if not higher. Sorry if we have a different view on things.


yes, but i didn't buy all those players
half of my starting team is made of draftees i trained, or players i bought after selling a trained draftee of similar salary
if you check my transfer history you'll see there are periods of about 6 months without any purchase

not that this kills me... it was just my contribution to the discussion as a III player

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129389.192 in reply to 129389.180
Date: 1/29/2010 5:33:16 PM
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Just to put more on you, my team have already 1 championship and one cup, with my salaries being only 183k. So most probably our Italian friend had better or equal team to mine.


i also started in season 2

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Date: 1/29/2010 5:36:01 PM
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oh, btw... i don't think there's a "better solution" to the problem
it's probably a structural flaw of the multipyramidal system, and i learnt to accept it

otherwise i wouldn't have renewed my supporter until february 2011

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Date: 1/29/2010 5:48:04 PM
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Well the problem are not the small countries rather than the tough competition that you face. One proposal is to split the large countries in 2 pieces. Maybe that way your big ego will get some satisfaction.

Still you cant convince me that we are the problem that you cant advance a division. I can understand that is really frustrating to try so hard to get so less (wining side, because you have many more benefits fun wise compared to us) but thats your problem not ours...

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Date: 1/29/2010 5:52:46 PM
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this aspect of the game is definitely the most challenging. However I can not find correct that a team of Spanish IV series has market power. It makes no sense that a team first division of a country with few users, such as Japan or Canada will be able to dominate easy the best Spanish or German or ItalianSpanish or German or Italian.
Wherever you are, you find major incomes where there are so many passionate people and if you try to set realistic management as a BB then it takes We consider this one.
You want a serious proposal? if the inflows to the stadiums were in the number of teams active in that country? You tell me what is the point that the only user of Ghana may potentially have a huge hall playing against bots?
Changes made on merchandising prospective were ok but very limited in scope given that 90% of the proceeds derived from the stadium!
I hope that Charles & Co seriously consider this issue and provide solutions to serious problems. (again if they see it as a problem)

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