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Its no easy answer to this. I think what your saying is very debate-able. I might have one of the best outside shooting in all div 4 .Go look at my salary those guys are not weak in skills. The other team just play LI /m2m and boost od, boom the "W" is there.

Should i spend 250K$ a week on my team or should push it 400K a week which is the max I can afford before I break my bank account and is run off bb for ever. You make it sound like these super upper league teams have it figured out in reality a few of my personal players come from those same upper teams your talking about skill about the same.

While I have not played in B3 or anything of that nature. I assume the best teams that are beating li have a 25 million dollar team or has spent as much. Maybe even renting those player for a season or just for the b3 tourney.

Li is over powered along with od in some cases, because a od with od 9-13 should not be stopping jr15, js16 which I do have. So I don't see any easy answer , waiting for data and results don't make this any better. I don't have all the answers but what I do have is a lost to teams that play LI and high OD, in lower division.. Let me tell you my salary is high because I have outside shooters not LI players.. My team cant play LI or low post to save it life.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 8/29/2013 2:30:36 PM

Its no easy answer to this. I think what your saying is very debate-able. I might have one of the best outside shooting in all div 4 .Go look at my salary those guys are not weak in skills. The other team just play LI /m2m and boost od, boom the "W" is there.

Should i spend 250K$ a week on my team or should push it 400K a week which is the max I can afford before I break my bank account and is run off bb for ever. You make it sound like these super upper league teams have it figured out in reality a few of my personal players come from those same upper teams your talking about skill about the same.

While I have not played in B3 or anything of that nature. I assume the best teams that are beating li have a 25 million dollar team or has spent as much. Maybe even renting those player for a season or just for the b3 tourney.

Li is over powered along with od in some cases, because a od with od 9-13 should not be stopping jr15, js16 which I do have. So I don't see any easy answer , waiting for data and results don't make this any better. I don't have all the answers but what I do have is a lost to teams that play LI and high OD, in lower division.. Let me tell you my salary is high because I have outside shooters not LI players.. My team cant play LI or low post to save it life.

The only applicable analogy here that I can think of is that not everyone graduates in the top half of their class; there also have to be everyone else that makes the top half possible.

Salaries are pretty meaningless, especially in IV - I got far better production out of 10-15k salary guys in my time there than many teams got out of 30-40k players. But I refused to buy big men unless they had good handling, passing and OD - and as it turned out, that worked quite well. I'm taking that further by training my own big men with even better guard skills, and having seen that succeed as well as it has to this point, I'm probably going to finetune this with another generation of guys in a few seasons.

Hopefully some of this will help you make progress. Don't buy players with bad OD, HA or PA, ever (unless you're going to train them and fix that). Try not to end up with a player that fouls as frequently as your C does. Or, you know, do whatever you want to do and keep making that top half possible.

Wolph I am going to have to disagree with you. I have 3 high quality big men that I have played this season each with radically diferent skillsets.

Sonada is basically all primaries. He has high IS but little JS or DR. Total 30 points of offensive skills.
Eita Wakatsuki has incredible secondaries as well as very high IS. Total 46 points of offensive kills.
Takayoshi Kishita doesn't even know what the basket looks like he has ridiculously low IS. Total 24 points of offensive skills.


So surely if IS was as key as everyone thinks Sonada and Eita would score at a much better rate than Kishita.

Sonada hits at 59%.
Eita hits at 54%.
Kishita hits at 53%.

Eita has nearly DOUBLE the offensive skills & hits 1% better. EIta has much better offensive skills than Sonada but hits at a 5% lower rate.

It makes no sense to me. :P

What was the OD? Did you not see my point that its pointless to make such an evaluation on bigs that don't have OD??? If they don't have OD, of course their D sucks. What we need to know is, given OD, can SB make an impact?

That's stupid
If you're going up against a post up guy in a look inside offense than I shouldn't have to worry about his OD
THAT'S the whole point
man to man, A guy that can stop inside offense and block shots, why the hell SHOULD he need OD???????????????????????
That's what guards are for, to try and stop the pass from coming in
but once it's there....Opposing Center trying to score at the basket....CAN YOU STOP HIM???

What was the OD? Did you not see my point that its pointless to make such an evaluation on bigs that don't have OD??? If they don't have OD, of course their D sucks. What we need to know is, given OD, can SB make an impact?

That's stupid
If you're going up against a post up guy in a look inside offense than I shouldn't have to worry about his OD
THAT'S the whole point
man to man, A guy that can stop inside offense and block shots, why the hell SHOULD he need OD???????????????????????
That's what guards are for, to try and stop the pass from coming in
but once it's there....Opposing Center trying to score at the basket....CAN YOU STOP HIM???

Yes, and that's precisely why in every basketball league in the world, big men just sit around under the basket rather than trying to prevent entry passes from reaching their man -- because that's guards' work. And before the "this is BB not RL", if a PF gets the ball and is going to pass it to the C, but neither of the defending PF or C have any OD, you just got dunked on. If you're weak on OD on your big men, you're going to give up more open shots than if you had OD on them, guaranteed - and significantly so.

salary is everything for a team on bb. we cant neglect something because its such and such level it don't matter.

If is the case then why are managers screaming to the gms of bb not allow team in the lower brackets to afford 300K players? f salary means nothing then it should be no issue? understand its a Br rule, but same its salary rule. Salary matters

My center get fouls because of sb Increase by BB Ge,before this he never got this many fouls. t has nothing to do with trainng stamina, game shape. It some kind of silly high sb penalty. thnk my bg od, jr.jr. pa.MY C way better than yours not being rude. does your center have jr 13. js 13. pa 8. od 13. ha 12 is 10. id 11 sb 12?. I doubt it

don't you mean inside defense you can't dunk from the 20 ft area. LOL ok maybe on BB