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From: Kurt
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Date: 10/6/2007 6:36:12 PM
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I saw somethings like this and wrote to gm, but i'm still waiting for the answer

Status: Open (awaiting response)
Last Updated: 24/09/2007 10.32.03
Claimed By: Nobody

A little over a week ago, I posted a thread about a terrible player being bought for 670K - a clear example of cheating. Now the team that profited from the cheating is using that money to buy a very good player on the TL, Serif Çeri (776482)

I understand that it's sometimes not possible to stop a cheater right away, but here is an example of how doing nothing is not an option either. Some legitimate team is going to have to get into a bidding war with a cheater to buy this player OR even worse the player will be lost to the cheating team.

Can't TL activity at least be frozen for suspected cheaters to avoid this from happening? This is an urgent issue, as this player closes in the next 24 hours.

From: stogey23

To: Kurt
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Date: 10/6/2007 7:21:30 PM
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Did he dissappear? I can't find the player

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From: Vikman

To: Kurt
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Date: 10/6/2007 7:23:58 PM
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The only response you would get is that we received it. All the tickets are read even if no one claims them.

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Date: 10/6/2007 7:24:19 PM
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he is in this team: Jundiaí Basquete Clube
for 720k..


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Date: 10/6/2007 7:25:06 PM
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There appears to be a lot of frustration due to a few cases. I had no idea ~10 were being caught a week as I've only been aware of less than a handful. The issue here is the effect these rare cases are having. There's not a lot of star players on the TL, so when they hit the market and we're all after them and a cheater swoops in on that popular player a lot of us will notice this.

I had assumed most cheating allegations where dealt with manually by BB/GM, not through automated means. As the BB/employed staff already have so much to do, isn't it possible to give GM's the power to deal with individual cases which have been reported (maybe by multiple users)?

I think that last thing we, at least I, would want to do is push you all into additional hours of programming. If the current tools are working at the rate you stated then the system isn't broken, just needs some individual attention to the small number of cases which are having and impact and making it appear as that cheating is rife.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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Date: 10/6/2007 7:32:45 PM
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he is in this team: Jundiaí Basquete Clube
for 720k..


It's good to point out that this team, that bought Serif Çeri (776482), is not a cheater. His transfers are in order.

From: brian

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720k! He must be a cheater, hang him!

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
From: Vikman

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Date: 10/6/2007 7:44:00 PM
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BB-Charles is actually working on tools for us GM's so we can deal with cheaters.

BB-Charles:
I'll also tell you that you have a great group of GMs who are telling us as loudly as possible the same things you are -- they are desperate for us developers to give them better tools. So in short, I'm going to ask you guys to give us a week, and within a week I expect we'll be able to have something good to report back.

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Date: 10/6/2007 7:52:54 PM
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he is in this team: Jundiaí Basquete Clube
for 720k..


It's good to point out that this team, that bought Serif Çeri (776482), is not a cheater. His transfers are in order.


yes, this is not a cheater..his economy is clean..

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Date: 10/6/2007 10:59:27 PM
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From BB-Charles:

It's also the case that it's really not fair to individual teams to be accusing them of cheating in public. I understand the reason this is happening is that you are unable to accuse them in private and get a satisfactory response, but it's also true that part of the solution is that cheating complaints need to be moved off of public forums.


As a reminder, please do not post specific cheating allegations. We're allowing this thread to continue so that the true scope of the cheating issue can be known. Trust us, no one is aware of the scale of this problem more than the GMs and the BBs. However, the conference rules must still be enforced.

Edited 10/6/2007 11:02:58 PM by GM-BadLarry