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Date: 1/1/2013 11:22:23 PM
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You wanna hear a shocker, I didnt change it yet. I still have a 3. I really dont know what caused the change... I have been winning more games recently, but I was playing the 8th seed and was not expecting anything high for this game. I got 170k from this game, a franchise record for ticket sales.

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From: sheert

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how is it possible for division IV team to make 170k-180k from ticket sales over there, while here in turkey div. III teams gets 150k-160k (averege) from tickets? can anyone explain?

From: Manouche

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With a 14k seat arena.

From: sheert

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Date: 1/8/2013 5:56:19 PM
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irrelevant. there are many 15k+ plus arenas here and i dont see them appealing many fans and $$'s. plus 180 k ticket income is way above average turkish div. III teams' income. i see a definete imbalance.

From: Manouche

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Date: 1/8/2013 5:58:29 PM
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there are many 15k+ plus arenas here and i dont see them appealing many fans and $$'s.


Link to these teams and we will explain why, probably too high ticket prices.

From: WFUnDina

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Date: 1/8/2013 6:10:26 PM
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There are many contributing factors. 1st, you need to have an Arena big enough to do it. Secondly, your prices have to be right. Of course, have a great fan survey will always help, along with having a good opponent.

But 1st their are some guides, I like to follow, these are not fact or written in stone or something. Each of the 5 division have an acceptable price range, from looking around and what I've seen, id range them like this.

           D.I     D.II     D.III     D.IV        D.V
Bleachers 15-20 12-17 9-13 7-12 5-10
Lower Tier 55-70 37-60 30-40 25-35 18-30
Courtside 150-200 120-150 80-120 65-110 50-90
Luxury Box 1200-1600 900-1400 700-1200 500-1000 400-800


Of course these prices, have to be in correlation to amount of seats. You can't just be a winning D.III team with 5000 seats and expect to sell out at 20$ a pop, because other D.III teams are making 100$K on their 10,000 seat arena.

This D.IV team made 170022$ And it wasn't even the Finals! http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29052/arena.aspx

This D.III team promoted and has a winning record, but he can't sell Bleachers because they are too expensive. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29042/arena.aspx

This D.III team is making over 225K$ a game!http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/23228/arena.aspx Even making that much money, I'm sure if he adjusted his prices, he could possibly make even more.

You have to look at how many seats you have, the smaller the number the more you can charge, but their are breaking points. At a certain point, fans won't pay X$s for a certain division, etc.


Edit - those columns are as good as they are going to get!

Last edited by WFUnDina at 1/8/2013 6:53:26 PM

From: sheert

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Date: 1/9/2013 7:57:35 AM
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@ Manouche and WFUnDina
first i want to say i am sorry that i was agressive to you just because i was dissappointed.

now on i take your answers as an advice and enlarge my arena, lower my prices. hope to get enough $$ in return, if i can't, watch you backs i will be all over there :D.

just kidding, thx...

From: WFUnDina

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Date: 1/9/2013 9:14:45 AM
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I never thought you were aggressive. I just wanted to help share some of the info that I've gathered. My head is jumbled up mess of info. :P

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233931.27 in reply to 233931.20
Date: 1/9/2013 12:16:25 PM
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Žaidėjų algos: $ 165 687 Lankomumas: $ 187 970
Personalo algos: $ 46 646 Prekių pelnas: $ 35 112
Talentų paieška: $ 20 000 TV kontraktas: $ 68 126
Viso: $ 232 333 Viso: $ 291 208
Savaitės grynasis pelnas: $ 58 875
Paskutinės namų rungtynės: 13957 fanų (99% pilnas)

even more:D i can bet i would be making around 200k if id be without loses. last seasons seen a team in lithuania div 4 making like 211k constantly. The fact is you need quite a big arena, be succesfull at tournament and manage prices correctly.

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233931.28 in reply to 233931.27
Date: 1/9/2013 12:55:49 PM
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congrats man, i hope i can make money as much as you some day :P

From: Manouche

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It's ok :)

You've tricked WFUnDina into making a masterful post, well played ! ;)

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