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From: Tuddu

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Date: 3/13/2013 7:46:57 AM
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Managers, who are affected by "rent-a-player" teams either in cup, playoffs or relegation matches, are IMO much more important than NTs. BBs probably calculated the NT collateral damage and decided it's worth it.


My forecast: nt coaches will threaten NT players' owners if they think about selling players.

and that's another element which makes conflictual nt interest with club interest.

From: Flamen

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Managers, who are affected by "rent-a-player" teams either in cup, playoffs or relegation matches, are IMO much more important than NTs. BBs probably calculated the NT collateral damage and decided it's worth it.


My forecast: nt coaches will threaten NT players' owners if they think about selling players.

and that's another element which makes conflictual nt interest with club interest.


Even if I think this will be a real issue to promoting and demoting teams, i think it is good for the NT game. NT will have to rely more on stable players and will have to encourage better salary/efficient players.

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238678.21 in reply to 238678.11
Date: 3/13/2013 8:16:25 AM
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Don't like it too, you expressed exactly my thoughts.
Adding more: every regular season lasts 11 weeks, if I need 2 weeks or more to have a new player in a good GS, it's completely useless not only to buy someone in the last days, but also in the last weeks. You have to plan your roster during the offseason and then... who knows!
I had 3 injuries in the last week of S22 RS, I was first in my League and ready to be in Italian Cup Final, without the possibility to buy someone (I mean, every kind of player, I'm not speaking strictly about big monsters), my entire season would have been wasted without give me a chance to save it. And considering how many random there is in injuries....

C'mon, affecting the enthusiasm or creating some sort of team chemistry is way more clever and useful.

From: Koperboy

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The problem for NT coaches is they can threaten all they want, but they won't fire the player in the middle of the season because they lose enthusiasm. They can however threaten at the beginning of the season. What is stopping the manager from selling the player two weeks after he promised he will retain him until end of the season?

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Date: 3/13/2013 8:26:27 AM
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NTs can be sabotaged, promoted teams are under high pressure to buy players as soon as possible, or they might fall behind in GS, replacing an injured player becomes somewhat useless...


Really? How exactly is this change going to lead to more sabotage -- wouldn't it just be easier to have one guy play the NT player 48 minutes a game, three times a week rather than get together a ring of people to trade NT players on the TL back and forth so they keep dropping in GS?

From: Tuddu

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The problem for NT coaches is they can threaten all they want, but they won't fire the player in the middle of the season because they lose enthusiasm. They can however threaten at the beginning of the season. What is stopping the manager from selling the player two weeks after he promised he will retain him until end of the season?


they will threaten because it is just better than doing nothing. maybe he will be useless, maybe not (imagine a coach who is also a GM: he can frighten many newbies). but you should focus on the effect on management of nt coach. be the best nt coach in the tournament will be neither sufficient nor necessary. Be the luckiest will.

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Date: 3/13/2013 9:36:30 AM
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The problem for NT coaches is they can threaten all they want, but they won't fire the player in the middle of the season because they lose enthusiasm. They can however threaten at the beginning of the season. What is stopping the manager from selling the player two weeks after he promised he will retain him until end of the season?


they will threaten because it is just better than doing nothing. maybe he will be useless, maybe not (imagine a coach who is also a GM: he can frighten many newbies)


Please, expand on that.


"Hey, I'm Perpete and I'm coach of Tudduland National Team. I called your player because he is the strongest we have. Now, if you try to sell him I will be forced to punish you by TPA/ BAN."

No matter if GM can o cannot. Many newbies can be scared and obey: better not to risk.

That's the limit case, also nt coach non GM can threaten newbies, taking advantage of their inexperience.

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"Hey, I'm Perpete and I'm coach of Tudduland National Team. I called your player because he is the strongest we have. Now, if you try to sell him I will be forced to punish you by TPA/ BAN."

No matter if GM can o cannot. Many newbies can be scared and obey: better not to risk.

That's the limit case, also nt coach non GM can threaten newbies, taking advantage of their inexperience.


Well, the GS hit doesn't change a thing. They could threaten before, they could threaten after. As efficient the threatens can be, I don't see how this can change from before.

As for a GM threatening someone to punish him. He can try. This would be a bad idea. There is spam report for anything and one spam report of this kind against a GM and he will stop being a GM immediatly.

So please, no need to say that GMs are evil dark lord.


No, now they could threaten more than before. Threatening TPA can be only if a player is sold. And a sold player reduces his own game shape.

And in my hypotesis they will use it only to unexperienced users, which ignore about spam report and so on, and even if they know that they prefer not to risk. Anyway it was just a bracket example. No reason to continue on this topic.

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